Thread regarding ExxonMobil Corp. layoffs

@iqd+1dEXyBin
The idea that you have worked 11 years at EM and you have enjoyed every team, liked every supervisor and manager you’ve worked with is ridiculous. There are often good people and sometimes great teams, although there are also sociopaths and deeply dysfunctional teems as well, and that’s EM’s choice, not just bad luck.
Rarely you get supervisors and managers who respect themselves, but there’s a conflict of interest there: more you respect yourself, less able you will be to function in EM management and the lower you will stop in your climb. Nasty and ruthless has always been the way to climb to the top in Exxon.
So your LI-worthy post is a fairy tale, the likes of which we are seeing more and more lately. You should limit your story telling to LI, where everybody has to watch what they’re saying with an eye to their next job.

Don't assume everyone who is leaving has had a bad experience like you (obviously) have. I left EM last month after 11 years in finance. I legitimately enjoyed my job and every team I had worked with. I liked every single one of my managers and supervisors during that time. I learned a lot and will forever be grateful for the opportunities I had to establish my career.

I didn't leave because I hated the past, I left because I have significant questions about the future. I left because Houston, frankly, sucks. I left because the schools, even though well ranked, are severely overcrowded and I wanted my kids to have more opportunities to be involved. I left because we wanted to live closer to the mountains in an area with 4 seasons. I left because I wanted to be able to work remotely half the time from here on out.

I had an awesome 11+ years at the company and don't have any regrets, and I think many are in the same boat.

I agree with the comments made here. The best thing to do is nothing at all. Just move on. There is no need to “thank” an American company for having financially rewarded you. The company would’ve fired you whenever it no longer made sense to employ you. But there is also no point in lying to your network, which may include 2nd and 3rd connections looking for jobs right now, they may consider joining XOM. If you praise your time at XOM, you’re pushing those connections off the cliff; if you bash XOM, you’re pushing yourself off the cliff for future employers. Just keep it quiet and move on.

I see working for XOM like an experience with a lady of the night: don’t brag about it, don’t complain about, just don’t talk about it. It was all transactional. You got what you wanted, she got what she wanted. Now go cleanse yourself off the guilt, quietly, and enjoy your new life.

If you want to have a good laugh, just imagine that for one day people would be hit by a virus that makes them tell only the truth and everybody who posts on LI would actually voice there what they really think and feel, with detailed descriptions of what happened to them and why they really left or why they’re usually posting brown nosing stuff. Just imagine EM without the “normal” curtain of hypocrisy - it would be spectacular!

ipp+1dEXyBin
If you log into LI from your work computer to “like” what managers post there or to post your own stuff saying how proud you are to be working at EM and how everything is hunky dory, then not only you’re allowed to do it, you get super brownie points (just make sure you clean your nose from the brown).
If you want to end whatever you had at EM (you can’t call it a career anymore), then go ahead and log into thelayoff site from your work computer. In fact, even if you do it from your own device without VPN you might get the same “terminal” results.

There's no benefit in being honest. XOM is not going to change because of your feedback. If anything, you are setting yourself up - future employers may think that you are a whiner who can't take the heat. Why put yourself in a bad position for zero benefits? Be smart, there's no need to let XOM ruin your career any further now that you have left.

@ipp+1dEXyBin
why not? in EMIT our LT have sent out a deck on "how to create your LinkedIn account" and we are encouraged to post company activities and news

Is it acceptable to log in to LinkedIn from work PC?

I not log into thelayoff from work but LinkedIn seems a grey area.

Hypocrisy is the bedrock at EM, the fondamental value.

@ais+1dEXyBin Your preaching sounds Iike the EMIT VP hotshot who never went to IT school but somehow ended up becoming a VP of an IT org. #winning

OP, you are so right.

I don't think they are being dishonest. Most people surely HAD some "fantastic work experience" if they worked for the company for 10+ years. This situation has changed. The company is no longer what it used to be, and that's why they are leaving. Also, they certainly still have some friends and nice colleague who are staying.

Honesty is rare these days

because it does not matter. Dallas will not change course because of linked in. The potential new hires will discount your opinion because they don’t know you. The only people who do see your posts are your ex colleagues, so why not give a public shout out to them if they treated you nicely?

One reason is that speaking poorly about your previous employer is frowned upon. Therefore, there is this toxic positivity to turn it around and talk about so-called positive experiences. If it's so good, why leave? Political-correctness is unfortunately a bane. These people who suddenly leave were retrenched.

Also there is a bonus for high performers and higher CLs, there is 401k match, you can work remotely if you do good work, and actually while we don’t offer 980 as an official policy, most managers in my experience have had the attitude “I don’t care when or how you work so long as you get it done”. I know it’s not the case for everyone certainly, but in my experience that’s been the case.

It’s surprising you see 3-5 posts a day on your feed as an outsider. I’d accuse you of being jealous, but I’m not sure what you could be jealous of lol. But anyways, most people I know who quit actually did enjoy their time here. Exxon is not a tech company, and so it won’t pay it’s top tech talent like top tech companies. I don’t blame the company for that, it’s understandable. And I don’t blame them for leaving. They had some fun times and want to move on to something else.

These posts are also largely being made by people who were high performers (whether they actually were or not is irrelevant) and so their experience at XOM as a high performer probably was overall pretty positive.

Maybe it’s different for other areas, but for the 20 or so people I know who quit most fell into the description I gave.