Thread regarding IBM layoffs

@ha I guess while dreaming of overpaying for a house and having 2 car loans they forgot to read the line in the visa paperwork that it is a temporary visa that could be revoked at any time.

They've siphoned enough. Time for them to go home and rebuild their homeland. Take all the ideas and things you liked about the US and implement them over there.

Good riddens. So tired of the scamming, lying, and low work quality, and overabundance of Tesla drivers wearing RayBan glasses. For gods sake, there's more than just Tesla in the EV market.

GO HOME.

Hard enough for legacy IT workers n young IT grads find work, then compete against India bodyshops eg. Tata, HCL, Infosys, Wipro. At least made it clear they not welcome, by American workers.

@nh
I disagree that this would negatively affect the housing market. That is absurd. If anything, moderating demand could help correct an overheated market and alleviate upward pressure on housing prices.

But let’s assume, for the sake of argument, that you are correct and that this causes the housing market to contract significantly, even to the point of a crash. Wouldn’t that, in itself, be indicative of a much deeper structural problem? If the housing market is so dependent on H-1B inflows that reducing them could trigger such a collapse, it suggests that the system has become excessively reliant on, and distorted by, that demand. It should never have been permitted to reach such disproportionate and unsustainable levels. Such a scenario would not demonstrate why reform is harmful; rather, it would expose the extent to which the system has been exploited and abused, with inadequate oversight allowing those distortions to grow unchecked.

And let’s dispense with the tired argument that America somehow lacks homegrown talent. The notion that we must continually import foreign labor because we cannot find or develop qualified people here is a farce. The H-1B program was never intended to serve as a substitute for investing in American talent or as an unlimited labor pipeline. Nor does the sheer volume of H-1B recipients establish that we are importing the world’s top 1% of talent. If the argument is that America cannot compete without importing talent at scale, perhaps the more pressing question is why American companies have become so unwilling to recognize, develop, and adequately compensate the talent they already have.

@an if someone have canadian pr can they transfer to canada after june 2027

@fx because all the big IT firms are run by indians.. this shows the level of knowledge they have ... if we scrap h1b ur housing market will collapse.. you just wait and watch. Ibm is not letting everyone go only people in lower bands are being asked.. they still have people who will continue on h1b

@ex Yahtzee!

https://businessmodelanalyst.com/ibm-visa-sponsorship-consulting-layoff-lookback/

@h0

https://cis.org/Richwine/H1B-Recipients-Are-Not-Best-and-Brightest

Read some of the posts on Blind, Reddit, etc. The degree of entitlement is appalling. "Married one year ago, have $6000 mortgage and two car payments, was about to start a family, and now I have 1 month to move back to India and take an 80% pay cut. This is so unfair."

Boo hoo. This isn't your country, you're not a citizen, you've only been here 2-3 years and yet you act like you own the place. You came here on a temporary work visa. No one owes you anything.

@fx This false narrative that there’s no talent here has gone on long enough. The system has been abused for far too long, and enough is enough.

@OP lipstick on a pig ...

I’m not sure I understand the scope of the change. Is IBM ending H-1B sponsorship for current employees before their existing status expires, or will those employees be able to continue working through their current approval period, with IBM declining to file extensions after three or six years or sponsor green cards?

If employees can keep working through their current approval period, the number affected immediately may be relatively small.

Why do we need H1Bs in the US? Not needed, go home and stay home.

Bye!

If this were applied to Albany, it would decimate the site.

@ex Yes, this is absolutely because of what Microsoft pulled.

They laid off 6000 people then applied for 6000 PERMs. Blatant abuse. So now Microsoft (and a few other companies like Apple and Adobe) are banned from the system outright.

Frankly was shocked IBM wasn't on the list, but IBM is small potatoes nowadays, no one remembers they exist because they're in the advanced stages of jugaad poisoning and izzat death.

This is sounding like IBM got a stern warning that we were next after Microsoft was dragged onto the carpet a week or so back.

Remember they can’t do layoffs if they have H1B, etc.

What about fairness and consistency. All business units should be treated the same. This is IBM once again showing itself to immoral, unethical and not adhering to its own business conduct and guidelines.

@d1 just starting. It will cycle over to the other BUs at some point. Probably one at a time

Only IBM Consulting and B9 (and below). B10 and are above not part of it.

It is just for consulting

It does not announce an equivalent company-wide ban covering:
IBM Research
IBM Infrastructure
IBM Software
IBM Systems

@cz Well shiver me timbers

@cv here you go https://www.newsweek.com/green-card-h1b-visa-update-ibm-ending-certain-sponsorships-12694698

@cv Check employee-resources-faqs-visa page on w3

Yup true.. all Visa holders given 2 options - either go to other location/country where IBM have delivery center or resign. Decision by employee to be taken by 11/30. If resigning then last working day would be 12/31/2026. And if planning to relocate and keep the job then need to leave US at max by 06/30/2027

@cv Don’t know if this influenced IBM, but it sure sounds like the White House is talking directly about IBM

https://www.whitehouse.gov/presidential-actions/2026/09/enhancing-program-integrity-and-integrity-and-interagency-coordination-in-the-administration-of-the-h-1b-nonimmigrant-visa-program/

@ct until some proof is presented this is hearsay at best

@cs Unfortunately TRUE

This cannot be true. This absolutely false.

@bf I think we both know IBM isn't doing this because its the right thing to do (it is of course). They're doing it because they figured out how it will save them more money so Arvind can add on to his $30M payout in 2027.

New US rule. now H1B visa if you layoff US workers. That is the reason. So not by their choice but by their ugly actions.

@c4 across Untied States. Manager got to know about it late last night

@ax yes list bu and locations or it’s not true

while this is a good thing for tech (as its abused by tech firms), its not going to bring IBM jobs back to the US I am afraid. More it signals that IBM now feel that they can move the jobs into India directly (even lower cost), then having the job in the US bu an H1B (higher cost to the job in India).

So its a step in the right direction but about 10 years too late

Which departments or BUs have these been sent to?

Malarkey!

@ap No

What about IBM hired contractors working for IBM clients? Are they impacted?

@ak Employees have been asked to find new Project OR Job outside USA(within IBM) or outside IBM asap. IBM won’t entertain visa people after June 2027.

Any update on India transfer and deadline?

@ah find new project? but why? or find new job?

Yes it’s true . All H1B , L1 and even I-140 employees have been asked to leave the firm by June 2027.