The writing is on the wall. Project team leadership being stacked with downstreamers who know nothing about the upstream. Get ready for a wave of projects to fail. Not everything is as easy as Guyana and UNCON.
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@rd "my door is always open"
Remember the first 2 steps to any Executive reaction to a disaster in their organization:
1.) Lie
2.) Deny
@gx that’s right bruh boiling oil in tank make gas & diesel go brrrr
I actually had to explain a group of Downstream Supervisors that EM did not own 100% of upstream projects and also what OBO projects were, and secondment.
Downstreamers grow up in a bubble.
@dd guy who’s conception of downstream is “boiling oil in a tank” thinks he qualified to compare and contrast with upstream. Dunning Kruger effect on display.
@d1 Agree! They're doing this everywhere in the company. For example, I'm one of the very few in Procurement who is actually an expert in their category - but only because I've refused to be moved. Most get moved constantly and never have an opportunity to become knowledgeable in whatever they're supposed to be sourcing. It's a faulty strategy trying to turn everyone into a generalist.
@d1 For real though. Downstream does a good job at downstream, but not gonna lie you can never compare the two. Boiling crude oil in a tank at one major location with everybody at that location is 100x much easier than sending thousands of ppl out every day to service thousands of pieces of equipment + scheduling hundreds of trucks to pick up oil/ deliver supplies to remote sites + drilling 4 mile long wells over a mile under the ground + frac ops (were you pressure up things over tens of thousands of psi) for those wells which are all in the middle of nowhere. Plus making sure that all the emissions for those sites are ok versus just being able to walk around one giant site and check everything out.
@ah Look. The downstream guys do a Great job at downstream. Hats off to them for that. All I am saying is they don’t do upstream work well. And why should they be able to? The work is different. An offshore project is very different from work in a refinery. As an upstream employee I wouldn’t take it as an insult if someone said people who have been doing refinery work for 30 years are better at refinery work than people who have been doing offshore work for 30 years.
The point is they are firing the upstream employees and sidelining them for roles they clearly are more qualified at. Downstream buddies are putting their buddies in roles based on buddy club not skills.
@ah yea, the upstreamers surely do not know how to save a penny by cutting a cash cow to death
sure buddy. us D/S are a bunch of pikers .... it would be awesome if the U/S "experts" knew how to plan and control costs ... but they can't