It seems to me that employees are more concerned about attrition than our leadership is. Ever since I've been working here, we've never had so many people leaving the company. There are many reasons, but what do you think is the biggest?
I would say that it may not be possible to name just one big reason. I think it's the culmination of years of damage to this company.
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My whole family has caught covid (some more than once) they are all fine.
Its a cold at this point. No reason to worry about it. Time to go back to life.
@jsaa+1epZX53D, then count yourself and your family lucky. I know more people who've died or had long-term issues than those who've "had a cold".
I don't think we need to worry about it and can get back to life, but we do need to take reasonable precautions. The current spike is filling up hospitals, ICU's and emergency rooms such that people needing to have surgeries for other things can't be seen. That's the real problem with people saying Covid is just a cold and no longer giving a sh-t about it. When your loved one needs a pacemaker, or has one but needs to have the battery replaced and can't get it, is it OK that the hospitals are full of people with a cold? MY cousin was in an auto accident and injured her spine. They keep postponing the surgery they say she needs to be able to walk again due to her local hospital being full of Covid patients.
Believe me, I want life to go back to normal again.
@afql+1epZX53D, I didn't say she spent $1M on the house. I said it's worth $1M+. And she owns 2 homes there. One in the city, and some lake house somewhere in OK. But, if you compare a $1M home in OK with any other state you prefer, those homes will cost 5-10x as much for the same size home and/or land. OK is a cheap state to live in or retire.
There's a lot of oil industry in Tulsa, so if you want to work in oil, you basically have to live in LA, OK or TX, all of which are red states. Her dad bought a ton of land outside of Tulsa back in the 30's and 40's, stuff that everyone thought was way outside of town, yet is now inside 110th St. The entire family grew up there making bank in oil and real estate.
But hey, thanks for being an a$$ and trying to put people down. My point was, she's got money, has insurance, and couldn't get treatment for Covid and still has health issues more than 6 months later. It's not just a cold for some people. She's fit, was healthy and not overweight, and is her her late 50's/early 60's, so she's not exactly elderly or old, but she is retired.
My whole family has caught covid (some more than once) they are all fine.
Its a cold at this point. No reason to worry about it. Time to go back to life.
@abpu+1epZX53D No one would spend a million dollars to live in fu----g Oklahoma.
Covid-19 is a (slightly) more intense common cold.
I've caught it twice and it was a long cold, but no big deal.
We can protect our vulnerable populations while the rest of us go about our normal lives.
That's what my Republican cousin thought too. She didn't get vaccinated and caught COVID. When she tried to get treatment from the ER, the hospital turned her away back in the summer because she hadn't been vaccinated and her symptoms were not such that she needed oxygen. She got worse and had to take an ambulance back to the hospital where they gave her an IV for dehydration and stabilized her & again sent her home.
It's been 6 months since she caught COVID and she's still not recovered. She's retired now, lives in a $1M+ home in Oklahoma & has plenty of money saved. But she's in a red state that didn't want to vaccinate and the hospitals hit capacity, so unless you needed a ventilator, you weren't getting a room.
I hope going about her normal life was worth the loss of strength, stamina, taste and smell as well as being constantly short of breath.
Covid-19 is a (slightly) more intense common cold.
I've caught it twice and it was a long cold, but no big deal.
We can protect our vulnerable populations while the rest of us go about our normal lives.
You can ignore covid-19, but that virus wont ignore you. Maybe this is evolution in action where natural selection is taking place in front of our eyes. Orange man took his booster shot. He knows something that many average Americans don't - well he still has access to classified info briefing as an ex-president I guess.
Vaxx isn't required at lots of locations. Especially those that don't care about government Mandates.
The mandates are not legitimate. We learn in Highschool Government - that there are three branches of government and the legislature makes laws (Not the executive branch - ie President).
The founding fathers set up the system that way so there would be lots of people (those in the legislator), thinking on a subject before they make stupid snap-neck decisions that have the opportunity to close lots of small businesses who are already hurting.
And many people, are just ignoring the edicts because they are ridiculous. We are not having a two-tier society in America. We are not forcing people to do anything (in the land of the free, home of the brave).
Never in the history of time has a group that's been forcing medical procedures, lockdowns, "medical" concentration camps, and wearing of symbols (masks) on just some of the population... been a positive and uplifting group.
Mass exodus to where exactly? Where you go, vaxx is required. Well, unless you are talking about the Israelite exodus from Egypt to the Promised Land.
"And as we speak about this, cisco hits $61. Market is crazy but something is fishy here."
Could be the trillions entering the economy or firms releasing funds they know they will get back from Big Gov. Got to put that money somewhere. And this much money can even raise the Titanic that is Cisco.
I kept seeing people boasting on ‘the layoff’ about how great Cisco is for them. I found it is ironic that they found and posted on ‘the layoff’. What is the benefit of brown nosing here? The checkin brown nosing is not enough ?
It’s easy, competitors are paying big bucks for top talent and Cisco is trying to cut costs because it can’t grow. Tell you everything you need to know
Speaking of stock at $61, do investors know Cisco can't ship most products for 6 months and customers are starting to revolt. Just doesn't add up.
Wtf are you folks yappin about? I joined Cisco because it is the #1 IT company in the world. Cisco has been named the best place to work for in the past 3 years in a row. If you got chopped, move on instead of complaining, it aint good for your health.
And as we speak about this, cisco hits $61. Market is crazy but something is fishy here.
I blame the BU. Every BU is filled with a bunch of squirrelly weirdos. They can’t articulate anything well, whether it be new technology, roadmaps, vision, etc. They don’t answer emails, ignore Webex messages, refuse to rehearse presentations, and frequently show up late to meetings.
The people who create the technology are lazy, don’t pay attention to details, and neglect the little things.
It starts there and trickles down to every part of the company.
Cisco is lost in its own smug self-importance with nobody sycophantic dullards in all layers of management thinking they're the next Jobs/Gates/Zuckerberg. Company ruled by salespeople with no technical people on the ELT. It is a minor player in IT nowadays, relegated out of the boardroom. Cisco has missed all the big technology seismic shifts in IT; cloud, L7 security and remote collaboration. Cisco skills have very little relevance now in IT and staff are leaving. Many of these fatal errors were made by JC and yet CR does not seem to able to turn this round.
I left because
- No career growth potential
- No transferable skills
- Poor Management at all levels
- No relevance in the market nowadays
Reason I left:
- Poor upper management that has been around for ages! The Vp and Sr Dir level is full of hacks that just tell each other what they want to hear so very little real progress is made.
- Pay. I understand that half of my
Colleagues work 25-30 hour work weeks so the mediocre pay is fine for the level of effort they put in. But for someone who was working hard, I wanted to be compensated for that work. The interview process alone showed me that other companies are paying 25-50% more.
- Technology. Cisco’s tech is boring and not very relevant.
Being punished for trying anything new
So many missed market opportunities
Promotions based on bu-t licking
Clueless management too afraid of their own shadow to take any risks
From the sales side the issue tend to roll down hill. The AVP/SEDs must have some program that sets them apart from the other AVP/SSEDs. Then the OD/SSEMs must have their program or some initiative that sets them apart. Then the RMs have some best practices that get layered on top. The poor SEM is the only one that usually gets to track all this. The SEs typically try to do it all....the AMs or at least the good ones just do their job and say sc--w it, unless they are running behind their goal...then just make up 3X pipeline and get back to work.
Year after year of layoffs. Woke bologna instead of engineering leaders.
I left Cisco for 3 main reasons.
- Poor leadership and lack of strategy and direction
- No system to appraise and rewards individuals for actual hard work and achievement
- Poor pay and renumeration. I have almost doubled my base and other offers were a minimum of 50% more base and significant RSUs
Cisco was an amazing company to work for once upon a time. I am grateful for what it did for me, despite not earning as much as I could have elsewhere which I am responsible for, but I am worried if the current trajectory continues, Cisco will be too far behind to be relevant anywhere
https://www.futuriom.com/articles/news/why-cisco-is-in-existential-crisis/2020/08
^^^This.
Corrosive, sycophantic culture.
Cisco is not a CEO level discussion nowadays - AWS, Microsoft, Google, VMWare stole Cisco's clothes (and Cisco sat back and let them, asleep at the wheel).
CSR and woke initiatives have too high a stature. Important yes but not exclusively so.
Lack of respect for technical people and their abilities. Technology is boring and would rather talk a pile of BS
No avenues for technical people to advance other than to become an AM/PSS but that is not what most technical people want to do. That is a waste of very skilled resources and so people walk.
Opaque promotion structure.
Poor pay [increasingly so] and lack of raises. So when a raise given to a team member who is Grade 7 or 8,, that deprives budget for the rest of the team since manager only has a very small raise budget for the team.
Long hours working at home that no one knows - or cares - about.
Declining product and software quality with resultant increase in TAC load.
Insufficient investment into the resources needed to turn a HW company into a software company. "Let the account team handle it"
Bleak future. Fear of missing out. Stress because of the layoff sword dangling over our heads. Frustration at ELT asleep at the wheel.