Make it make sense, please.
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Simple. They aren’t hipos.
Usually the best people have integrity. As a result they aren’t able to succeed in such a political environment where the truth is often ignored to support the narrative management wants to hear.
Because EM can hire 10 curries for same cost.
Because they're more expensive than the people they've been hiring in the least two to three years. OR they are not aligned with the hive-mind.
“Traumatized”
From…sitting at a cubicle and building slide decks?
Like, for real?
You people are getting ridiculous. To hear you tell it, you’d think you’re in an active war zone. What DaFuq is this bull$hit…
@ve You’re checking the site daily but somehow not thinking about your old job?
Not sure I’m following your logic here.
@y7 you are 100%.
Look how these fleas pack together even here on this platform when something negative has said about Exxon.
They don't like how they're treated. They know no better. But then they ruthlessly protect what they hate. Mental illness
Look at the fear in every employees eyes. Everyone is afraid of getting fired by the management. I saw this at baytown and knew it was time to leave exxon. I joined a as materia person and got a job back in California. Exxon was horrible to work at for a year. The employees were absolute snakes and trash.
@s1: old habits die hard ;). only retired 17 days, still working on developing new habits. now only checking this site once a day. i haven't thought about my old job once in that time.
this place is the only one to exchange info on voya rollovers, lump sum, and to commiserate about the state of XOM as @t1 eludes.
good luck y'all.
I see traumatized people every day on campus.
The most severely affected seem to be late 40’s to 50’s. They look at me like I am a competitor, not like a coworker.
I can detect serious concern as if they are worried daily about NSI. Some look so worried that they might actually be working through their PIP just hoping to get one more year of employment.
EM has created the most toxic work environment achieve-able.
Put so much annual layoff targets on employees then mix into every group a 1/10 salary impat just as a daily reminder that EM can replace you with 5 curries and still save 50% of your salary.
Requiring all the HC10 employees to take training about Engineer-Buy-Build-India is just rubbing salt into wounds.
Surprised a large mental therapy clinic has not opened in N2.
@s1 this is no normal place. People are traumatized
@r7 Question: if you’re so happy to be gone, why are you coming back here to follow company gossip and post about it?
Genuinely curious, because when I leave a job I’m done thinking about it for the rest of my natural life.
@je: transfer-in-PIP-sacrifice here. Thankfully I was RE, had my FU$. I was not going go through PIP for these new clowns. Glad to be free. For those still at XOM USA, watch your backs. May the odds be ever in your favor and may you make it to retirement.
EM PIPing the highly paid old guys and hiring 1/10 new guys is false math.
That old guy has saved EM over $100 million easily while that new guy that cannot form a coherent sentence is a high risk to cost EM $100 million.
One of those 1/10 curries asked such a stupid question in a model review last week that he was asked to repeat the question, validating how stupid the question was. One person jumped to the rescue and said let’s take that offline, but amazingly stupid question coming from an oilfield employee.
These curries are very nice and friendly, but their knowledge level is appropriately 1/10 what it should be.
Transfers result in PIPs for 2 reasons.
A good worker moves into a new group, the new group is a long term team of friends so the Supervisor throws the new guy to the bottom.
A good worker moves out of a group and his previous Supervisor throws him under the bus so can achieve his mandatory PIP layoff target without losing anyone on remaining team.
Beware of transfer timing related to who represents you in the ranking and your possible selfish Supervisor motives.
I see this all the time. People hit their late 40’s and are treated like cr-p. People who aren’t political don’t belong here. It is a vipers pit.
Can we just get medical til 65 as part of the pip as a 50+? You would probably get volunteers.
The layoff quotas must be met, and Supervisors feel the least guilt when PIPing a retirement eligible older guy that has enough retirement savings instead of the younger guy with small kids but only knows PowerPoint so cannot even get a job flipping burgers.
@OP did you get a PIPing?
Yes this is all true. The high pay, speaking out against the waste and ineptitude, not playing the game and kissing the bosses ar-e, Being an outsider and jealousy. I was high paid and an outspoken critic of exxon so I was pip tired. I now work on data centers for meta. I was more experienced and better than the youngsters who managed me. Data centers pay well and there is a future with them.
@bm It’s more about money than anything else. Most of the people catching PIPs are hi-earning late career ICs. The math is pretty simple. The company doesn’t want to pay them.
Posters here keep cooking up these whack-job conspiracy theories to explain what amounts to a simple cost reduction tactic. Also, Exxon didn’t invent this. GE did. All Exxon did was copy and paste it.
@bh Give me a break. PIP is the easiest way to take revenge . Don't like them put them in NSI category and document bunch of BS, tolerate them 3 more months and that's it
@bh good then why they never PIP the useless managers? If we are really treeming the fat here, they are the first ones to go
Best folks? They are nasty and lazy! We cannot keep having these drags to keep being dead weights. Manager is kind to let them have PIP, in the real world, they would be FIRED!
@OP Ask them what they make. Then it’ll make sense.
If you want to change the culture, you have to change the people, so Em doesn't let this to happen. It operates like a cult. If they tell you that survival requires eliminating the person next to you, you’re expected to do it without hesitation, without questioning, and that’s how you survive.
Because they think and speak for themselves And that is the opposite of what EM wants. This is why they're doubling down on graduate hires who know no better and will do what they're told
100% correct.
Our managers are not leaders and they have fragile egos.
It will be the downfall of the company.
“ If you point out nonsense, inefficiency, wastes of time/money and you are an experienced hire you are quickly branded as "difficult."”
They hate outspoken people. Look at your manager's buddies they are all his/her pets
There is a nice blonde at work I’d like to PIPe
Most of the time its straight up age discrimination.
Managers never get PIPed. It is reserved for the ICs.
@ae, i think you sre blind by convinience.
"The nail that sticks out gets hammered down." In my experience, two reasons someone gets put on a PIP: 1) They are slackers and don't pull their weight. 2) They are highly compensated/older employees and the company is looking to outsource/bring in fresh talent that is paid a lot less.
If you are put on a PIP, it's HR documenting a legal paper trail so the firing will stand up in court in case you sue for wrongful termination. This is a very common tactic among all large corporations nowadays.
Usually the best person isn’t created to do or deal with politics . Usually the best person is a threat which means a target. It doesn’t matter about getting things done or saving money.
@OP “Nothing creates enemies faster than telling the truth.” Just keep the yes person
If you point out nonsense, inefficiency, wastes of time/money and you are an experienced hire you are quickly branded as "difficult."