Worked my a-s off on 18A. PTL yields are above 70%. All those weekends and long nights making it happen, but in the end got laid off. Capitalism su-ks.
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18A yield is actually 70% don't let the Taiwanese troll farms fool you
@ae who care they told him they dont care about his work or him as a person. Luck is a stupid cope.
@a9 Its capitalism....you think Inyels problems ate unique. You think the drive to increase profits at the cost of loyal good workers is something that exist outside of capitalism?
I don't believe OP ever worked at Intel.
Intel TD management has no technical knowledge. They do not know what is important and do not know who make the contributions. They made series of bad decisions. I am a Sr. PE and can testify how naive are the group of decision makers.
Capitalism is the best!
It rewards people for creating what other people want.
Harsh sometimes when what you create isn’t wanted any longer, but the market has spoken.
this seems like trolling when you attach complaints about capitalism to a layoff story. are you saying there is a system where no one gets laid off?
@af: nobody needs anyone to quit Intel. Once everyone believes the beancounters in chief will treat you as a number to be reduced as your reward for working nights and weekends actual quitting is unnecessary and it seems like an easy sell for some reason.
Expectation in life is the source of disappointment and sorrow. Let go your expectations and you'll be a happy soul. Most of the time you are not in control of anything. So let go and live happy.
@ct "Capitalism may be the worst system but it is way better than any alternative. "
How can it be the worst system yet better than any alternatives? Wouldn't that make it the best system if it is better than any alternatives?
not an Intel employee. But 18A is a futuristic technology. I read about it through open source public information. 1.8 nanometer transistors is a miracle! Its literally down to counting silicon atoms. I guess 18A can fit some 6 to 9 silicon atoms if placed in a line. Why would Intel save money off people working on such futuristic teams is beyond my understanding. So if 18A becomes viable, I could approximately fit 33% more gates in the same foam factor when compared to 3 nM technology which is the most advanced as of today. And nobody apart from Intel has got 18A planned. I would nurture this team. What is Intel management thinking. Can anyone throw some light?
Also PTL yields are different than def mat yields.
@bt lol I had usually def mat saying it's usually 30% . Care to elaborate why the yield is so low as 20%? Also you guys are after die sort?
@ct If capitalism is "the worst system" then, by definition, it cannot be better than any alternative.
Check your logic previous poster. I'm now cross eyed
Capitalism is why you had a job in the first place. You made some money from intel and now you have to move on. Capitalism may be the worst system but it is way better than any alternative.
“Worked my a-s off on 18A. All those weekends and long nights making it happen, but in the end got laid off. Capitalism su-ks.”
Useful id--ts like you are part of the problem. Probably patting yourself on the back for outcompeting your coworkers at focal only to find out you are as disposable as a cattle at a factory farm. Intel managers must be laughing in their corporate boardrooms at all these RCGs working harder, faster, more, more. Why sacrifice your health sanity sleep self-respect for a clique of insider upper management? There are (were?) so many like you at Intel.
Who cares if the yield is 80% or higher, there are no major customers for IFS. Intel products are losing market share so they won't keep the factories running at capacity. Too much money was spent on the development and construction of factories. The only way the recovery plan worked was if IFS landed big customers to keep the factories running at capacity. The costs will never be recovered.
Def Met here, 18A yield is at 20% and no external customers.
Intel managements are just like monkeys trying to build a car. They do not have knowledge. If these monkeys ever ride in the car, it is by the engineers. These monkeys mess it up and discourage good engineers.
In particular, the GM for manufacturing automation group in Intel Foundry is an id--t monkey, who does not support new development in the past 5 years. He is a disaster to the company.
Until Intel regains an ounce of integrity, any communication re yield data is suspect
Can someone from Def Met please chime in re actual 18A yields? Thanks
@ag You shoulda seen T1.2, which was a 120lb dude spray pained in aluminum paint, with a lawnmower muffler in his mouth, mumbling 'no problemo'
The T-1000 is a great improvement since the days of the single digit T.
Capitalism always puts profit above people. The system sometimes up with better products, but you've sold your soul to the devil to get it.
Sorry bro, lots of people working on the critical things were laid off, It’s all about hitting the budget not about making smart and detailed cuts.
Pretty much highlights again like all the prior times a mindless cuts.
Cut a limb, cut a finger and toes from each limb instead of making much more intelligent and big cuts. Again beam counting driven cuts
Above 70% 🤭
@as 18A has just 30K wpm planned till 2027. Currently it is 5K wpm. I don't think external customers are needed with such low capacity.
@ae how do you know the yield data is false? Just curious
The problem is there are ZERO external customers for 18A. The fabs are grossly overstaffed with the assumption that 18A would be running at full capacity, when that is not the case.
Intel Managment is just saving themselves. Us workers are pawns to be eliminated.
Sorry to hear that. Were an ENG or fab tech?
Intel management is going insane.
Capitalism is sc--wing NVIDIA too, their latest products are cr-p because they don't need to compete with anyone so they will meet the same fate at Intel.
@af Clearly he is not a T-1000.
He's just a T-1.3, which is just a dude in an alumunim jumpsuit.
Yields are considered secret info. It’s a bad look to post about them, even if it’s false data like yours.
Thanks for your ha----b, I meant handwork.
They used you.they knew they could
@OP Not sure you can blame capitalism for this. The employees over at AMD and Nvidia would tend to disagree.
Sorry you got laid off. Where did you work?