Thread regarding Chevron Corp. layoffs

You all are toxic, lmao. Jeez.

IT selections will be made by a Cloud enabled RPA bot, because he has way more business intelligence and has actual technical experience compared to the ImagineIT team, who are a bunch of incompetent clowns.

I still cannot believe they are telling us to learn programming, if these dumb F@ck$ could write a Hello World program, I would willingly EOI from this S-hole company. No wonder IT is such a joke here.

Why only 40%?

Knowing the incompetence of IT, by the time this is all said and done, the function will have increased by 10%, in headcount.

Boo hoo, you IT people complain too much about your do nothing jobs and your diversity in leadership. Nobody cares. Just keep the help desk and the rest can be sc-apped.

Why is ImagineIT a bunch of white people and 1 token minority person thrown in. Is this what diversity looks like? Count me out.
#IAmWithSteve

@vzmb+15s8EW7D Just another vague useless post.

Wow, my supervisor just got out of an ImagineIT meeting. In short, it's going to be a blood bath from a job selection event standpoint. We are royally F'd. Whatever they tell you on the call tommarrow, know their lying. Be sure to make your questions as hostile as possible. Every person for themselves!!!

ImagineIT says they are working in 2 week sprint cycles in order to be Agile. Last i checked, there is no end of sprint demo to the product owners (CVX employees) of what they accomplished even if its 80/20 done, yet none of us have not seen jack sh–. If the ImagineIT team doesnt tell us anything again on this next upcoming call, I am going to stick my PollEV up their sh–ty ACDC Pinball Machine, if you know what I mean.

Growth mindset.

The only group less value-added than IT is human resources! how many of their “managers” will get let go?

I totally agree with the previous comment. Chevron does not need software engineers. What we need are only a few sharp IT technicians who know how to keep our servers and personal computers working. Software application development and maintenance should be done by outside professional companies. Let’s get back to our core business basics right now. We are an oil and gas company.

This is an oil and gas company not a tech company, we engineer and drill wells, and put them on production to make money. We don't need software engineers, data scientists, agile coaches, IT management, etc BS IT staff making dumb c-ap software. Company IT is garbage and irrelevant and overpaid. Chevron should not be investing in anything internally built, only 3rd party IT systems by professionals. To all you Chevron software engineers who think your top dog, go interview at google and watch your a$$ get shown the door when you struggle to answer a single Leetcode question.

How many software engineers does Chevron IT have to actually lead an average software engineering organization in Chevron? How many agile coaches will IT certify and lead the Agile Chapter just so that Chevron can move even slower and be more expensive than before the CPDEP days? Through the grapevine in San Ramon, I heard that these chapter positions are in the next round of PSG 26-27... and there are probably over 50 people at that level but absolutely unqualified to take on those positions at any other company except at Chevron. We are in good hands. Realistically, the best case scenario is if those managers stop trying to manage, and let the next level of the younger people with actual knowledge and experience in those areas to lead the way.

Deez nutz got cut.

Yes, go ahead and attempt to get a job at XOM, your model company "who have no plays for layoffs"(other than their annual staff reductions that they just happen to not technically refer to as layoffs). You will learn the real meaning of the term "progressive"! Good luck with that . LMAO!

You will know if you should EOI after round 2 is announced.

Yes you can. You should take it, this function is a dumpster fire.

If I just hired on to one of Chevron's IT departments and realized this place is a total sh!t-show, can I still qualify to EOI and get a package with 6 weeks pay?

Cause honestly the lack of actual information provided by the IT leadership/ImagineIT group during this pandemic/layoff season despite smothering us with useless townhalls that tell us nothing, tells me this place is run by incompetent senior IT management who think they can BS their staff to their face, their terrible liars. Maybe we should get jobs at more progressive companies like ExxonMobil who apparently have no plans for layoffs.

They misunderstood the desire for more transparency as frequent low value communication.

We have no news and nothing to share, but let’s have another town hall. F—ing mo–ns.

I asked my IT supervisor if she planned to retool herself and learn programming. My IT supervisor said she would rather get a package then have to learn how to code, hence thats what the leadership chapter is for. So much for fostering a "growth mindset" in IT. Granted that's what happens when you hire former liberal arts majors to do IT. The only question they are truly qualified to answer is, was it awkward to move back in with your parents after graduation? Just saying.

San Ramon will simply not recognise that there are engineers and architects who are more productive and relevant to the business. It is what it is. At least if we are competitive for technical jobs outside of Chevron, there are plenty of other industries to go into once the economy turns.

It will be very apparent in the next couple of selection rounds when the same people get the same leadership roles, even though they say they want to be more technical. It is also very funny to watch our IT leaders squirm in explaining how they have retooled themselves and taking programming courses. And the way they explain what they’re doing just really shows how clueless they really are when it comes to any real technical content.

This is a disaster waiting to happen because the selection teams are also uninformed business leaders who have been educated by their IT counterparts who have not been technical for 25-35 years. Let’s see who gets selected as these chapter leaders. Guarantee most if not all of them will be highly unqualified candidates because the PSG levels will surely be too high for the more qualified people.

The ImagineIT function at Chevron is such a joke. A bunch of older IT managers who spent decades not learning the technology stacks and systems used in their function and getting away with managing suppliers and employees at a distance with no accountability for delivery, service quality, nor cost. Hence our contractors rip us off all the time. Why would Chevron want to put these guy in charge of coming up with the new org model. I'd rather take my chances with BCG running the show outright, at least we will get a nice powerpoint deck at the end of it all, along with our severance check.

Its a reference to your job being outsourced to India bro. Come on.

One of the IT HR Managers told the IT supervisors on the open mic that they dont need to have any answers when their direct reports ask them questions about ImagineIT and essentially just be a sounding board and that's how they can be a "leader". How does this chick even have that job? Did she hire in through that neurodiversity program Chevron started? My gosh!

To those in IM, IRSM, Infra, or BU IT wondering if you have a job, best advice I can give you is stop waiting for the numbers to come out for what % each job group will get cut and instead just start looking for another job cause statistically your better off. Especially if you have no data science, programming, etc. skills that Chevron will try to retain. And if you a supervisor for IM, IRSM, Infra, or BU IT, better hope you got someone protecting you cause, the cuts will be brutal compared to any other function. Long story short, if your job can be replaced by "Steve" from Mumbai, the goal is to do so. So any adminish, DevOps, etc. job that can be done by someone offshore can and will be done. Same goes for alot of admin/coordination jobs in the CRA group that are not software engineering jobs.

Chevron has always considered IT a service cost, not a source of value creation. Since the service is easy and cheap to outsource, we don’t need expensive in house staff standing around. I wish someone would realize the same about the Law Function.

ALKO,

Chevron is f___ed. 😀

Since IT LT loves Microsoft so much, given their lack of knowledge and technical understanding that MSFT tech s—s compared to their peers, maybe they should replace the help desk with Cortana and be done with it.

IT is f—ed

My guess is the 20-30% of IT is in the BUs. If all IT is going under one org then you get rid of the equivalent number of BU jobs. The final make up will be probably be majority former I/ETC with some BU IT people thrown in, if they’re considered valuable in their area of expertise. My guess is the missing 10-20% will be reductions in supervision jobs, people retiring because this was the year they planned, gen Zers leaving because their friends say it’s not cool to work in oil & gas and a couple people who have great timing to start something new or have the next baby.

@8zvx How could they cut 40%.
Name something IT has done in the last 5 years.

Wait hold up, name something that IT has done well in the past 5 years.

Wait hold up again name something IT has done well that helped the bottom line in the last 5 years.

So there you have it. Outsource it to computer fixers somewhere else as IT is not our core business. Heck the spam filter for us is worse then gmails. Come on do they really add value.

How could they possibly cut that 40% and continue to function? Where would those numbers come from?

True, the VIPs do have their own personal executive support staff. That’s why they are all clueless about how sh–ty IT is.

The ELT has their personal IT team to manage their devices and computer troubleshooting so they dont have to call the help desk. Essentially its a swat team to clear the XXX sites off MW's iPad "touch" ... if you know what i mean. ;D

We can’t even delete icons off of our desktop without contacting IT. Let that sink in.

Hit up "Steve" from Mumbai, he is clutch at IT,

@6avx+15s8EW7D

Look at the letters on the phone pad when you dial 8765: 8SOL.

The secret to getting what you need is to avoid the central Helpdesk as much as possible unless it’s something really simple like resetting your pin/password. If you have similar issues on a regular basis go look at the link for your old ticket and just submit your next ticket directly to that support team. I’ve had tickets they’ve created sent to the incorrect IT team, sometimes multiple incorrect teams.