As the title suggests. Has anyone's manager or person above them suggested they return to the office, becoming essentially a hybrid role.
It seems like in more and more of my conversations with leadership there is a narrative to try and steer employees back to the office. Its frustrating, but until work your way forces that I don't ever see myself returning. If it becomes mandatory I'll most likely leave.
I work FAR more WFH than I did when I went into the office. Except for about a decade ago when I would leave campus after long 15-hour days. WFH I often work 10-12 hours easily, with no lunch break, as opposed to min 9-10 hours a day with a lunch break. If 3M forces me back into the office, that is actually going to decrease my productivity due to lunch breaks, people constantly stopping by my cube or in the hall to chat with me, fire drills, etc. On the other hand, now that I think about it it would probably actually be good for me to stop working myself to death like I'm doing now!
People working from home are not working. Get your @ss into the office and stop stealing. If you refuse to go back just get a new job now.
I'm also a 35 year employee who got "rightsized" but in 2021. Most of my years were also in thr production plants. Many nights and weekends supporting the plant while on call or helping with production issues. Never cared for spending my golden years in the Center. The pace of work in manufacturing made life fun, even when the hours were long. 3M Center was called the place where midwest work ethic went to die. 8 to 4 with a long lunch plus breaks in the afternoon just to pass time. When 3M owned the golf course, production peons like me would show up at 6 pm after a long day and have to wait 45 minutes on the 1st tee, because the Center employees had gotten there an hour earlier. The work at the Center was just too boring. Knew several people who left the rat race of manufacturing and took business or corporate jobs at the Center, only to be bored silly and then later get canned when the company missed Wall Street earning estimates by a penny.
Retirement with a nice pension and medical is sweet though. But only a just dessert after making forever and other nasty chemicals for 35 years and will end up having them in my body longer than the pharaohs have been preserved.
Merry Christmas to all, unless that offends you. In that case, buzz off.
Thanks for picking a date! Much easier to prove you're wrong when that week passes by without an announcement...
I was a 3M employee for 35 years before being downsized in 2015 with 2000 other employees. Working from home was just starting to be discussed at that time. It is the rare person indeed who can put in a full days work from home. It is too easy to justify negative behaviors and there are too many distractions “when the cat is away.”
Manufacturing jobs and support staff typically require all hands on deck and need to be physically on site. I was in the plants for most of my time at 3M and I would frequently laugh at the work ethic of 3M Center employees even back then. In at 8:00 and out at 4:00. Lots of stops at the cafeteria for breakfast and lunch in addition to taking care of personal business on company time. Of course many hard working employees too but that was the stereotype.
Your post is filled with misinformation.
Expect to hear about the NEW WYW the week of Jan 16th. People should expect that the bosses will push things like 3M culture of collaboration requires people to be working in the same physical location and that remote work is "inhibiting innovation" and was only for a limited period.
Woodbury used to be a nice place to live in 80s and 90s. Maybe in 2000s. Now crime is soaring, gang bang shootings after hs parties, lady was carjacked at a nice strip mall, smash and grab robberies, the same gas station was held up twice in same 2 weeks by same guy.
Massive bullying problem in schools, with no action by principal. Woodbury will soon see what happened to maplewood.
Sell now while you can. Avoid garbage grove. Pay the extra to live in lake elmo or stillwater.
It’s official…this is the most ridiculous thread I’ve seen on this site.
3M is a global company. Why the h.e././ would I need to go into an old smelly office to talk to EMEA, Asia, LATAM, etc. Ludacris.
My guess is all the WYW haters are in small town plants. 300K might get you something in Cynthiana, KY but it won’t buy you a box in Woodbury.
Dude, chill.
Leadership is so antiquated, out of touch and tone-def, I wouldn’t be surprised at all if they got rid of Work Your Way - the ONE thing people actually like about the company.
The better option would be to ignore the noisy boomers who insist on complaining about it until they finally retire.
People who doubt that a HUGE announcement is coming in January are ostriches who think 3M is still a warm, benevolent place to work.
Tire man is the canary bird in the mine here. He has already made it abundantly clear that empty seats are not 3M culture. You WILL be back in the office as hybrid at least Tues to Thurs. The company has tried to purge the masses now so that it could clear out the lazy and incompetent clowns and do nothings.
The changes will be announced and you will get three months to comply. The PFAS announcement covers the expenses of firing anyone who wants to stay at home. Any fools who hired into 3M as remote will find out the hard way that they have been hoodwinked. I expect by May you are either a hybrid employee or fired.
As to the man/woman/nonbinary (there I used the right pronoun) who really thinks this made up stuff, you are both clueless and will be unemployed unless you sign on to hybrid. 3M Center employees best toe the line. There aren't enough good paying jobs in The Peoples Republic of Twin Cities to pay for you 300k house in Woodbury.
Good riddance to those spoiled brats who think WYW is a human right.
Your "market rate" pay includes the skill set to collaborate and work in a team setting with others. Fake working from home does not use that skill set. Therefore lower salary vs employees who actually have people skills. On a side note I usually win at bs bingo - children crying and dogs barking in the background are easy scores. So is "can you see my screen" or ,"sorry I was muted".
Group 1 seems to think that group 2 owes them something. Group 2 is looking out for themselves just like how group 1 did while running the company into the ground. Group 2 doesn’t have a pension.
No two legged kids here, but free vet care would make a nice substitute.☮️
"Expect an announcement for north America and Europe in mid January. Hybrid will be the law of the land." Whoever wrote this is just fear mongering, with no actual knowledge of what is going on. 3M has downsized global office square feet (saving $$$) and has hired workers remotely all over the world. European country 3M entities have renegotiated local contracts with workers to allow for wyw, which is big undertaking and would have to be done again and agreed to by unions if there is a change - you can't snap your fingers and change it (recall musk trying to fire Twitter employees in Europe?). The very people who would be tasked with drafting and enforcing such an announcement/policy would likely rather quit than do so. The genie will not be put back in the bottle. Stop making stuff up.
As part of returning to an office, I want no cost child care, gas reimbursement, and my home Internet provided at 100 percent reimbursement.
@5tfo+1kdFJqRJ A woke start up? Have you not seen what 3M has become? They say go woke, go broke. In reality it us, I am going broke, time to throw a Gail Mary and sell my soul to the DEI-ESG woke gods and hope we can pull whatever is left of the company out if it. No difference than my working at 3M, I am trying to extract as much out of it as I can for me, and me alone. I will jump ship when I feel I have squeezed as much out of it as I can.
Let me split the difference on the generational infighting.
(1) The boomer/pensioner/lifer cohort is responsible for the decades of bad decision-making the has brought the company where it is today.
(2) The millennials and their associated work habits and lack of commitment won’t be able to pull the company out of the ditch.
(3) Both groups are highly entitled.
Wow boomer.
Looks like you were one of those 30 somethings promoted ahead of schedule by the GE guy mcnerney and now you complain?
Sorry you have the sour pu-s attitude but the rest of us are doing fine without your insults. Have some Geritol and perhaps an early in the day drink.
The people bashing we boomers here are full of envy and entitlement. We boomers were handed a great company by the Greatest Generation and kept this place profitable in spite of GE style bosses coming in with their know it all attitudes.
Those under 40 haven't worked as hard in a week as we have in a month. If you don't want to work your bu-t off at 3M, hit the road. You will not be missed.
WYW has been a financial disaster and unless the plug is pulled ASAP this company is doomed.
Get off Facebook. Wake up from your 2 hours midday naps and start carrying your weight!
What a bunch of nonsense. People get paid a market rate to do a specific job. It’s nobody’s business what people are or are not spending on commuting and daycare, or anything else, and pay shouldn’t be adjusted based on that. Where does that stop? We should pay someone less because they don’t buy expensive meals and only buy cheap food?
Who cares where the job is done if it gets done? As far as waiting 20 years for the new generation to “earn their stripes”, maybe nobody wants those stripes to be awarded by an antiquated older generation. They already apparently should wait 20 years for you guys to adapt to change. I mean, how can anybody work if they don’t drive to and from an ugly old set of buildings??
If the cost of retaining workers is WYW and accepting a half a$$ed effort from home, then I'll pass. Go work for a woke upstart company, not a company built on the back of hard workers. WYWers are taking advantage of it, and they know it. That's why the defend it so hard.
Getting rid of WYW will be a great way to drive anybody in the under 50 crowd remaining out of the company. Boomers are hanging on for their pensions. The younger generation has zero incentive stay on the Titanic. This company can’t retain younger workers as is.
Wyw, remote work is what I call "fake working from home." If those participating are willing to take a reduction in salary commensurate with commuting and day care costs I would take a second look. Until then, I think it is susceptible to abuse. For the new generation that believes this is the way to work in 2022, I'd say wait 20 more years and earn your stripes. Then you can set the direction...
The cat's pretty much out of the bag on WYW. Expect an announcement for north America and Europe in mid January. Hybrid will be the law of the land, meaning you will be in for three days per week so you can "collaborate" with your fellow peons. 3M will give time to implement this change, as in by April 1st you will have to sign up or get a (rare) exception.
Tire man has already dropped enough hints.
No crying over spilled milk here. We've had 3 years of remote work. Life goes on.
Don't think of quiet quitting while at work. The number of peons per boss is down so the bosses have more time to make sure you are not on your phone or playing mahjong on your computer.
Nope.
Pls remove WYW so that it's fair for all 3M staff
40 years of PFAS storm water contamination, Scotch Tape, and Post-It notes do not a great company make. Nor do pot bellies who miss their platform shoes.
You have an incipient case of verbal diarrhea.
The under 40 crowd at this company has grossly abused WYW. Sleeping off a drunken night, posting on Facebook all day long since you quit Twitter when Elon took over, watching price is right while you do a few tedious emails, etc.
The older generation of boomers and before built this into a great company. Now get back in the office and you will find out how much your skills have deteriorated. You will be expected to deliver 40 hours of work for 40 hours of pay. If we could get half of you to work a full 40 hours per week, the productivity would soar and the stock price back over 150.
Post ID: @4iqc+1kdFJqRJ - Better drive to CVS and get some Super Poligrip … what you are saying is completely unintelligible.
Your a$$ertion is without basis of fact. Things are made all over planet earth without an engineer standing there watching. Give me a break.
I swear I cannot stand people who act like they have special privileges just because they’re always “busy,” or feel entitled just because not everyone else burdened themselves with being a workaholic.
For EO, Tireman can get into action to get rid of WYW and demand all the plant staff and support to return to office. There is no way to insure productivity if engineers do remote control of the processes at the comfort of their homes.
This covidcation has been great.
Whether you work hard or hardly work the pay is the same. Do less.
I have no issue with most employees working remotely, in fact, the less work the people from the Quad do the better things may be. However, for those in R&D I do see some pressure to return to the office. For this, I agree with management, it's extremely difficult to innovate without being in the lab environment both for those at home and those in the office. Collaboration is extremely useful. If you work in R&D and feel you can do your job by directing a few in office technicians to do some tasks for you...then I question how valuable you really are...
Productivity has been garbage here since covid, which is why the stock price is putrid.
Stock price is going down the drain because of 3M executives, their mismanagement and incompetency. Worker bees are not the cause. Most of them are doing their job as best as possible.