Only tiny % shows ou to office more than 1 day a week. To resolve that, we all got new badges that will easily be tracked by HR and supervisors so they can use it to check if you are at work or at a parlor chatting and mingling!
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Apparently supervisors will be getting a one-day training course on how to manage/enforce employee locations. The HR program is similar to dr-g testing in design. It will include use of chat, phone and office pop-ins plus last-minute requests for in-person meetings or events. Of course, it will have guidance for how to deal with people being suspected of WFH, dishonesty, etc. "Coffee badging" will be a sackable offense with video proof at badging gates if needed, according to HR.
To actually have a 9/80 work schedule AND WFH is amazing and rare!! Appreciate what you have! Imagine if they took the 9/80 away!!
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A lot of people are holding down 2 or 3 jobs while "working from home". Management wants to weed them out.
I don't get the problem with coming into the office. I am there Monday thru Thursday then take every Friday as a WFH or off day. Keep your supervisor informed of your whereabouts and be available by phone. Management will be using this as a means to fire you. All this talk about coffee badging or bringing in someone else's badges is a really bad idea.
@3fiy, your adversary 3pbz didn't say they are such a supreme performer or who is slacking or have been slacking. You were too agitated to listen.
All he is saying is
(a) office is too over-rated in todays work environment (i.e. 2023)
(b) there's many, many progressive places that embraced WFH and they aren't afraid to embrace this brave new world.
How can you say nothing new, when this remote work issue is a new evolution or revolution from pace of technology advancement. Did you time travel here?
Permian seems to be working from home as well, judging from their huge production gap.
Why do I get the feeling the entire TCO project team was “working from home” on that latest billion dollar disaster?
Sure, we get it, everyone is more efficient working from home. Until they're not and nothing's getting done.
If you can’t effectively measure productivity, you can only assume the reason for shortcomings is work from home. I’m far more efficient working from home, but since nothing is measured here it’s not reflected. So make
Me come to the office, get 60-70% as much done, and we wonder why nothing is working.
This is an accountability problem, not a location problem.
@3qcd, ahh, you're the naive one. You have to realize that far more sophisticated ruses are going on than anything listed here. ...or as simple as taking every Friday off (in the old 9/80), or (when we do show up in the office) eating breakfast on Chevron time, or coming in late / leaving early, taking long lunches, drinking coffee in the Cafe all afternoon ('networking', I think they call it), filling your Outlook calendar with non-existent meetings, etc. etc. WFH just opened new avenues for our "truly creative" employees.
@3pbz, No, not even close. No one is claiming that the office, old ways are the only way to work. Many, young and old can and do that quite efficiently and effectively. The criticism is about those who don't and will not unless monitored constantly. It's really not a generational thing either, it's about being a slacker or not. The main protestors are the ones who love to slack and enjoy being able to get away with it. Don't reply with the tired "oh I am so great that I get all my work done in 20 minutes or 2 hours" line. If so, then you're overpaid. I've heard it all, no reason to spout incessantly about how you're so fantastic that you can get twice the work done as everyone else in half the time. B.S. with a capital B. Slackers and Full-of-Themselves employees have been spouting that line for ever, and ever. Those people are rarely any more talented than their coworkers and usually worse. Nothing new.
CVX is a low accountability culture. That won’t be fixed by forcing people to the office all the time. It’s fixed by truly holding people accountable for results. And we don’t even see that among the Execs who’ve recently led the company to shameful results so. It needs to be fixed at the core not for show
Gen X here. I love watching a silly internet argument between Boomers and Millennials. That’s the definition of going nowhere!
I have worked with a number of millennials who can crunch numbers or produce slides on their own but have no idea about the criticality of relationships in business and the resulting criticality of face-to-face interactions. They will call in to a meeting from their desk rather than walking two minutes to a meeting room where they could sit across from some people they barely know and read their body language. If you think your job is to just churn out stuff on your own, we can replace you with someone in India. The value in business is almost all created face-to-face.
@1dhr and @2mps - both of you have to be complete mrons to think you can divulge how you steal from the company on a public website that HR and management monitor and not be caught. Leadership knows what you fols have been up to and are the reason why we are getting new badges and mandatory 3 days in the office per week. Oh FYI, they told me to tell you are on a “special list”. Watch your back.
Boomers who thinks coming to office is such an essential and non-negotiable part of work comes from a time when ashtrays dot meeting rooms, and American industrial giants are all benevolent and and over-powering factor in our lives.
Today, we all work with our laptops; not wooden desks and filing cabinets.
We communicate and build relationships over thousand of miles to lowly paid workers in the exotic far east. We shuffle electrons instead of passing office memos.
Companies aren't all benevolent and sole factor in our lives anymore. In 2023, humans can seek employment across similar job functions across thousands of organizations worldwide. People have side gigs to match their passion; we can work for organizations thousands of miles away via short term consulting engagements. Some of us can generate income acting out digital videos and playing cabbie to a digital taxicab firm.
Thinking that the OFFICE is the ONLY way to WORK; is such a coal-miner mentality. Maybe time to unlearn your childhood experience.
Get rid of the last babyboomers. We dont need this 5am to 5pm slave attitude. We millenials like to spend time with loved ones, travel and work a little but earn a lot. Dont hate on us because you made it bad for yourselves. Grow up Baby boomer
@2mps love the neighborhood idea. OneTeam behavior.
@1dhr, in my neighborhood we rotate responsibility for carrying the badges in. Whoever is responsible picks up another 3 or 4 badges, tucks the laptops into a backpack. When I get to work, I badge myself in on one door, walk to the opposite side of the building, exit, then re-enter with one of my neighbor's badges. After a cup of coffee, I go down and do the same with the other badge or two. Makes it look like we all came in at different times and through different doors. Gotta keep those laptop logins straight, though, so it doesn't look like you logged in before you entered the building.
if those who think they are the best in the business, without doing any work or coming to the office, were to adapt the work ethics and hours of the hated baby boomers who everyone wanted gone. Maybe the chevron might again be a great energy company!!! Just thinking out load yes some of those old guys worked crazy hours but they knew their business
The reality of WFH vs Office vs anywhere else is a moot point. That's only the ability to control the narrative.
The real issues related to productivity and performance is that there is no recognition of technical skillsets or competencies. Clarity and transparency of PSG/FL is about as clear as mud. Thus, quantitative results aren't being recognized, so your technical individuals (across various functions) aren't getting recognized for actual results when compared to the corporate/political favorites (who likely have little to no technical skillsets).
Let me think. Company did not meet any of its metrics this year and no one goes to work. Even when people do show up at work it is with reluctance and they attend meetings with others in the office via screens on their desks. Are we sure there is no correlation. between the lack of people interacting face to face and our p-o performance. Just thinking.
Being in the office does not equal productivity. Building relationships does not equal productivity. In today’s world corporations need to trust their employees and let them work from anywhere. If they do not get their work done then get rid of them. Besides if CVX wants to save money dumping real estate is the fastest way to do it.
I am already waiting to hear the whining about people who live "too far away". Did you think the gravy train with biscuit wheels would run forever? Time to get up at 5 AM trudge to the car, get there at 630, work till 5 pm, hurry home and get to kiss your kids good night. This comoany dont run on dreams and we need everyone in the office and accounted for...
@1qxh, Grow up, son. Get your a$$ into the office 5 days a week. It took a manufactured pandemic to keep workers at home. But now that’s over and in the past, get yourself into the office and WORK. Otherwise start your own business and do as you like.
Take a moment to appreciate the guy that grouped boomers and feminists together as a force for return to office. Top tier layoffs.com, I salute you.
Yes people have every random reason to not be in the office. But lets be honest TONS took advantage of typical lax CVX supervisors. There was also a reverse network affect where people in the office just sat on teams all day and then stayed home and then others also were disillusioned.
Like it or not this is the only way people will actually show up. And we will find oit that maybe 5% or 10% refuse and just leave. MKW thinks of this as a free layoff.
So su-k it up and go in. You can always go home at lunch and call in sick when you need a mental stress day.
@yje+1q65nrDO I’m a millennial, and the only people I see complain about not enough relationship building are older than me. My philosophy is that we all have the same logo at the top of our paycheck, so we’re all doing what’s in the best interest of the company. All Chevron employees start off with a high level of my trust. The only way to erode it is to backstab, usually complaining to my boss about how I hurt your feelings without a being able to articulate a specific observable behavior. Who usually does that? Emotional boomers, mainly, and feminists. Chevron has been infiltrated by feminists.
Sounds like mgmt needs a some help with basic stats. Attendance is not normally distributed. Many teams have 1-2 day/week policy and no one is coming in 5-6 days a week to add to the right side of the peak. Plus training, sickness, weather etc, there are plenty of reasons it’s far below 3. Clearly demonstrates the ELT’s poor decision making if they don’t grasp probability and statistical reasoning.
Gotta love it. I am gonna talk to my neighbor / colleague about that.
Me and a colleague both take turns taking each other’s laptop and badge to the office. We actually would login to the two laptops and occasionally roam throughout the building using our badges interchangeably to make appear both of us are in the office on the same day. This doubles the count of us actually going to work at the office. So far, so good. Remember, for every measure, there is a countermeasure.
So, the ELT had a discussion about this and had HR run tracking across US to assess attendance. It came out at about 1.5 days in the office per person, on average. Apparently MW had a panic attack and fumed that when they implemented hybrid he had to have data that ensured no productivity was lost. It doesn’t seem they know how to measure that, but decided to send another memo out to employees requiring 3 days in office. Supervisors will be receiving monthly reporting on this and will have to take actions, or be acted upon by above, for not just forcing compliance. The decision at last minute was not to send the memo last week as planned and to wait until January to send it. It was going to go to all US employees but now seems it will be a cascading rebuke from ME to ELT, from ELT down to BUs and functions, and so on. They are also debating if it will be only at the management/supervisor level or to all employees. Gotta love the spinelessness of this, beat em and track them and drive them to deliver performance because that is why our performance su-ks. They guys at the top have become comically horrible in their rationale. WTF if the BOD doing about this parade?????????????
Be wary - something like this could be just what management needs to lay off "select" people (i.e, "troublemakers", i.e., those who challenge the comedy of errors going on)
the only people worried about this are the millennials who do no actual work, outside of "building relationships", err I mean nothing
That should help increase morale!
Out GM told us that as long as our work gets done it doesn’t matter where we are doing it. Works for me!!