Simply entanglements for sale?
https://www.bizjournals.com/triangle/news/2024/09/30/sas-cary-campus-office-space-buildings-sublease.html
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@7hqw+1uOhSrzW OH come on, it's pretty obvious
Huh?
Tax writeoffs, and teachers to lay.
Oh and I’m sure most of the silent majority here agrees with me.
@7evy+1uOhSrzW You aren’t wrong. It is like in politics where politicians constantly claim what they are saying is common sense and is what majority of Americans want. But everyone says it. It is meaningless and only used to influence certain types of people who listen to that kind of thing.
@6hbx+1uOhSrzW I didn’t see it as a personal affront at all. I didn’t even disagree with their opinion.
I just find it ridiculous when people claim “the majority of people think the same thing I do”. You have no way of knowing that. It is your opinion. Don’t try superimposing it on everyone else.
Or maybe they're just reading the room. Instead of seeing it as a personal affront (which you did), maybe you should try seeing it for what it is (which you won't). This makes you the bad guy, not that other fella. No good boy points for you.
Here I'm setting the example by not being personally offended by the thing someone else said that I might not agree with, but which I understand is just their opinion and I let it go. You should try that. I'm not attacking you, or questioning your intelligence or integrity. You should try that too.
“I would think most here would agree”
I love when people state an opinion and then bolster their opinion by claiming the majority of people agree with them. Low iq on display whether your opinion is right or wrong.
@6eyv+1uOhSrzW shoulda kept A Ghost
Add the Photographer to that list.
Commitment to Viya when the market was screaming no commitment to Viya has proven to be the single biggest mistake SAS ever made and is the reason the company is dying.
Continued amputation(layoffs) won't save the patient.
"And one of his only mistakes, most would agree!"
Are you serious?!!!!
In the contrary, I would think most here would agree he made many, many mistakes.
Here's a starter...
- pulling out of plans to go public in the early 2000s
- thinking The Big German had sufficient business acumen to have the decision making power he was given
- not embracing a SaaS business model
- thinking SAS could compete with open source
...I could go on and on but it's all been said before.
"Ironic, given that stopping making SAS free for education, was one of his greatest mistakes."
And one of his only mistakes, most would agree!
"For many years JHG has not donated to any causes that are not educational. "
Ironic, given that stopping making SAS free for education, was one of his greatest mistakes.
@3efm+1uOhSrzW is gas lighting and thinks people can't recognize it.
"why are you people so obsessed with living in preston and belonging to its country club ? VERYWEIRD"
You are clearly obsessed about where other people live.
MYOB and stop being VERY WEIRD!
What do you mean by you people ?
"why are you people so obsessed with living in preston and belonging to its country club"
Intolerance on full display.
Pipe down, commenters.
For many years JHG has not donated to any causes that are not educational. It's not likely he will start now.
Would it be free and very much needed PR? Of course. But not likely to happen.
why are you people so obsessed with living in preston and belonging to its country club ? VERYWEIRD
Alternative SAS Championship names:
"Golf with Geezers"
"Legacy Links"
"The Last Call"
“ Who are you to prevent people encouraging others, especially the wealthy ones, to donate to disaster reliefs, especially in their own states? ”
In what way is accusing someone of not donating as much as another organization encouraging anyone? couple with not having the first clue what those people have done.
If you think it is cool to tell others what to do with their money then try going straight to Dr G and tell him what the panthers donated. Or you can blather ignorantly on anonymous site about people who don’t read this anyway.
If you don’t see the futility and weirdness of that I don’t really know else to say.
donations will be collected at sas championship. they're renaming it fairway to fundraising.
Leave the people who make frames and who dust the rock collection alone.
Dolly Parton said she hopes her donations will inspire others to donate and assist in the massive recovery efforts.
"I hope we can all be a little bit of light in the world for our friends, our neighbors — even strangers — during this dark time they are experiencing." Dolly Parton
Dolly Parton donates $1 million to Hurricane Helene relief efforts and her associated businesses Dollywood Parks & Resorts and The Dollywood Foundation also match her $1M donation. Walmart , Sam's Club, and Walmart Foundation also donate $10M.
Other companies will probably donate too. Guys, it is a good thing if SAS donates since SAS is a NC company. I have a feeling SAS may donate in some ways and when they do it will be on the news so just wait and see.
The ones that should be ashamed are @3efm+1uOhSrzW and @3djz+1uOhSrzW.
Who are you to prevent people encouraging others, especially the wealthy ones, to donate to disaster reliefs, especially in their own states?
People in the Triangle are lucky the storm did not hit us hard here but it could have
easily been us if the storm veered eastward. Don't think disasters can't happen to you one day. Karma comes around. Step up to donate and stop preventing others to encourage others to donate.
"Not everyone needs to shout it to the rooftops."
Are you kidding me, in the past when SAS donated they shouted to media.
@3efm+1uOhSrzW I’m willing to bet I can find people in similar financial spots with @3ynu+1uOhSrzW who donated far more to the cause.
@3ynu+1uOhSrzW Should really be ashamed.
@3ynu+1uOhSrzW Good for you. I’m truly happy you helped out.
But what the other person was actually saying is that you should worry about yourself and what you can do.
You get zero input what others should do. And it certainly isn’t helpful for you to compare SAS/JG/JS to the Carolina Panthers.
Especially when you don’t have the first clue what SAS/JG/JS have or haven’t done. Not everyone needs to shout it to the rooftops.
I hate it when other people use this phrase so don’t use it lightly. You were virtue signaling.
Stay in your own lane. Be a good person.
Or veer out of your lane and be horrible person. It is really your call not mine.
See how that works.
@3kif+1uOhSrzW
Of course I did donate. Did you do it, company man?
Here are some of the organizations you can donate to:
- Food Banks of NC
- Red Cross
- Samaritan's Purse
- North Carolina Disaster Relief Fund which is managed by United Way of North Carolina. Donations can be made at www.nc.gov/donate and are being used to provide grants to nonprofits working directly in impacted communities.
- North Carolina Volunteer Organizations Active in Disaster (www.ncvoad.org/members). VOADS are vetted disaster relief nonprofit organizations that work in coordination with state and federal agencies to deliver supplies and services to North Carolinians in need.
- Donate for western NC when you go shopping in groceries stores.
Did you make a substantial (relative to your gross income) donation yourself, or are you just directing others to do so?
The paintings and sculptures can stay. They make SAS look nice. Just don't keep making too many more paintings since there are already tens of thousands of them all over all the buildings. What SAS should stop is making and giving out those framed letters for anniversaries of 10, 20, 25, 30, 35, 40, retirement, etc.. years of service. Most people don't want these to clutter the house and would prefer a gift card or cash gift instead.
SAS does not even need to sell arts off to donate to help with the devastation of western NC by Helene. The owners of the Carolina Panthers donated $3 Million so surely the richest men in NC from SAS will donate, hopefully. It's the right thing to do if one is a billionaire from NC. Hopefully soon we will hear news that SAS generously donate to western NC devastated by Helene. This is good PR and good cause for SAS, getting instant respect from the public and employees. I'd be extremely disappointed if SAS did not do anything substantial to help fellow Carolinians in western NC.
"And before you say "Offices encourage quiet time for productive use", lots of companies, many WAY more successful that SAS, disagree."
As a total introvert, I can only say, thank you Dr. Goodnight from the bottom of my heart for my office.
And, while SAS isn't the place it used to be, I can still be thankful for the good days.
“ Art is a nice to have, not a need to have”
And some day when you get off the couch and start your own company you will get to make that determination for yourself.
We don't "need to have" offices either, except for management. Maybe SAS should have saved a lot of money on C, Q, and A and just put cubes there. Whether or not the art is or isn't great, it's better than a sterile bland environment.
And before you say "Offices encourage quiet time for productive use", lots of companies, many WAY more successful that SAS, disagree.
Better still, use the proceeds to help fund a VRBP!
SAS should auction all the artwork and donate all the proceeds to rebuilding western NC from Helene's devastation.
"Or are you expecting that it should all first be removed"
Yes.
"sold"
Yes.
"and replaced with posters or box store plastic items?"
No. Treat it the same way laid off folks are treated. No replacement.
Art is a nice to have, not a need to have. None of the artwork serves any useful purpose anymore. Art work should have been ditched long ago. People are more interested in keeping their job instead of looking at useless art relics.
Try seeing the SAS situation through a more realistic lens.
There are hundreds (if not thousands) of pieces of art spread around campus. Do you expect the housekeeping staff to know how to maintain them, or are you expecting the maintenance techs to know how to do it? Or are you expecting that it should all first be removed, sold, and replaced with posters or box store plastic items?
Or does it make more sense to keep a small staff (art department) of people who know how to handle the collection?