https://www.businessinsider.com/cisco-4-billion-bet-on-cybersecurity-chuck-robbins-microsoft-2022-3
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@3jai+1fO1WbQ4 AI writes better code than software engineers. Code monkey is a bad career choice.
SEs are obsolete. AI is making them totally redundant. Become a software engineer if you want to remain relevant in any tech company.
@2ruo+1fO1WbQ4 - Get the he-l out off this forum. Go love the old farts and lick theirs - you are not needed on this forum if you love Cisco. You are a newbie - spend 15 years of your life to only find out how much you have overworked, underpaid and also not rewarded as you would like. Stay on peanuts salary while all other proper Tech companies are paying double the salary.
Guess what you only work for 2 hrs a day and make the whole months salary - not bad so defo loved Cisco for the reason. I miss it sometimes though as there have been weeks where I spent time on beach while join the WebEx and put myself on audio/video mute and do this all.. Love and miss Cisco :-)
cisco is #1 company IT is good to working place
not know why u is hated so much cisco
It is because Cisco just keeps acquiring companies with no clearcut strategy as to how it coherently fits together and addresses the overall security problem customers face.
Outside of a few (and diminishing) areas Cisco is incapable of developing new products from scratch. Too much support. Too many incremental projects.
A completely new project (that might compete with an existing revenue project) is almost impossible both politically and in execution.
If you can get over the political hurdles, revolutionary new product development (that yields a generational advantage, not just an evolutionary one) requires senior engineering leadership (managers, thinkers, and doers) of quality and at quantities that Cisco either doesn't have at all, or does have but are mired in day-to-day activities.
Revolutionary product development also requires large numbers of competent engineers (doers, not fillers) whose sole focus is the new work. And it requires time. Dedicated time without the having to support legacy products. And to hit the market opportunity it requires a level of dedication and effort that typically requires meaningful stock options to achieve.
This is not just a Cisco challenge, it's a challenge for all companies trying to do something new while supporting an existing product and customer base. And it's why startups exist and it's why they're acquired.
I know a lot of engineers who feel disgruntled by startup acquisitions, like it's unfair that they didn't get to develop new products themselves, yet those same engineers stay in their comfortable jobs, with their comfortable hours, their comfortable workloads, and the lack of stress. They like their corporate life and have no interest in the risk, commitment, and personal sacrifice that startups require.
If you've worked at a startup (successful or not), you'll agree. If you haven't, you'll most likely disagree... because you don't know what it's like on the inside.
Most good execs and top talent have left the company this past year.
It's not just Security. Datacenter is "all over the map throwing things at the wall and seeing what sticks" also. Example: Full Stack Observability only requires three products.
It is because Cisco just keeps acquiring companies with no clearcut strategy as to how it coherently fits together and addresses the overall security problem customers face. There is no snappy message and clear strategy. It is just all over the place. And then account teams have to try and sell this hotpotch - along with DC, Collab, EN, FSO, WAN and everything else. And they wonder why market share is sliding?
Security development is all over the map throwing things at the wall and seeing what sticks. It's shocking how inept upper management is.
"This guy cannot run a lemonade stand and like a typical limousine liberal just knows how to spend, spend, spend and fake everything for his outrageous exec comp package."
He's more like a corrupt pastor. His job is to convince the Ohio teacher's pension that Cisco is an innovative technology company. I'd say he is pretty good at maintaining Cisco's brand to investment funds.
The problem with cybersecurity at Cisco is pretty simple. Cisco has 8 layers of executives and managers that only know high-level buzzwords. Anyone that puts forth effort into building skills is labeled a threat.
It's like 1970s Soviet Union at Cisco.
If shareholders and the public really knew the real story and whats going on behind the scenes. Everything is a complete disaster under chuck. This guy cannot run a lemonade stand and like a typical limousine liberal just knows how to spend, spend, spend and fake everything for his outrageous exec comp package. The guy should go to jail for all the money he's sucked out of cisco while running it into the ground with every architecture.
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