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Wells Fargo: Trump tariffs would add $2.1K to the price of cars made by U.S. automakers—and could cost Ford, Stellantis, and GM billions in prof

https://fortune.com/2024/11/27/trump-tariffs-automakers-gm-stellantis-ford-mexico-canada-auto/

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@3bbo+1vISH57Z great point?

By the way, Ford was planning on building the next Gen F150 in Mexico. This latest development in administrations should change that.

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Post ID: @3fid+1vISH57Z

funny thing is they sure don't give a discount for the Mex version

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Post ID: @3bbo+1vISH57Z

Tariffs will require the Big 3 to being parts and production back to the US. That's a good thing.

It will eat further into profits for sure. In fact I don't think so three will survive. Ford or Chrysler will be gone.

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Post ID: @irk+1vISH57Z

Ironic that the tariffs would benefit Toyota Honda and Tesla the most since they don’t make much in MX (except for taco from toyota)
And Toyota and Honda rank highest on US made supplier auto components unlike the big 3 management that force suppliers to open plants in LCC

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Post ID: @gsf+1vISH57Z

Reverse the migration of assembly plants to mexico and make America first.

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Post ID: @ulh+1vISH57Z

If you think these tariffs will ever actually be put in place you are slow... the tariffs are one of the few negotiation levers the president can pull without congressional approval, it is obviously a "ba--s on the table" move to twist Mexico's arm into restraining immigration into the US... he did the same thing in 2019. I will eat my shoes if a 25% tariff is ever added to Mexican imports.

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Post ID: @oaf+1vISH57Z

Trump tariffs during his first term did not cause inflation.

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Post ID: @utn+1vISH57Z

President-elect Donald Trump recently announced a new sweeping tariffs proposition he says will take effect on his first day in office: 25% tariffs on imports from Mexico and Canada.
The new policy, which is meant to pressure the neighboring countries into cracking down on trafficking and migration across borders, could strike the auto industry and drive up car prices for consumers, according to a note from Wells Fargo analysts.
Major automakers General Motors and Stellantis are at serious risk because they “bear the most [Mexican] exposure, Wells Fargo analysts wrote. “Autos are stuck in the middle of Trump’s geopolitics.”
Via two posts on Truth Social, Trump wrote that all goods from Mexico and Canada would be slapped with a 25% tariff, until those countries “clamped down on dr-gs, particularly fentanyl, and migrants crossing the border, in a move that would appear to violate a free-trade deal,” per Reuters. Chinese goods would also get “an additional 10% tariff, above any additional tariffs.”
If enacted, a 25% tariff on all auto parts from Canada or Mexico will add $2,100 in cost to the consumer for each U.S. assembly vehicle, according to Wells Fargo estimates. As for entire vehicles produced in Mexico or Canada, consumers can expect to pay between $8,000 and $10,000 more. “All in, we see ~$5 billion to $9 billion in EBIT risk for the D3 before pricing or plant closures,” the bank wrote.
The Mexico and Canada tariffs will hit particularly hard, given that, as of last year, the U.S. accounts for 83% of Mexican exports and more than 75% of Canadian exports.
Consumers will pay the price
Because Trump invoked issues related to the two countries’ “open borders” rather than any particular economic imperative, Wells Fargo wrote, there may be “lower risk if border
issues can be addressed.” Nonetheless, the move highlights the high risk to Detroit’s Big 3 automakers: General Motors, Ford Motor Company and Chrysler.
The threat of tariffs would be “a two-alarm fire for the auto industry,” Patrick Anderson, CEO of Michigan-based consultancy Anderson Economic Group, told the New York Times. “There is probably not a single assembly plant in Michigan, Ohio, Illinois and Texas that would not immediately be affected by a 25 percent tariff.”
About 16% of U.S. vehicle imports are from Mexico and Canada, and global automaker margins are roughly 9%, “therefore it would be difficult to offset 25% tariff without raising [the] price.” Honda, Ford, GM and Stellantis currently have the largest U.S.-based operational scale and parts of any automaker, which means their prices would stand to grow the least.
This is the worst-case scenario for hopeful car owners, given that auto prices have far outpaced inflation since the pandemic. The average cost of a new car today is just over $48,000; in 2019, that figure was just under $37,000.

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