This only applies to the Maryland offices because I have no clue what’s happening at other locations. I’ve been informed that they are tracking badging in Owings Mills and “collecting the data for who comes in their 2 days a week and who doesn’t”, at least for tech. I know most associates are in 4 days a week, especially at HP, but does anyone think they’ll mandate tech come in 4 days a week this year?
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@3by don't know why this is getting downvoted, it's true.
@3by This is a new specific initiative from HR having to do with the 4 days in office. It is targeted trust me so beware.
Tracking attendance is nothing new. They’ve been doing it for years.
@2h9 aha yep ironically unequal while preaching equity
@1zq Yup but they pick and choose who they allow to stay home. Depends if you are a favorite or buddies with the boss. People using their kids as a reason when over half of us here have young kids. Keep being uninclusive and showing inequity and diversity in your practices of allowing who can work from home…you know all of DEI stuff that you like to preach and shove down our throats but then don’t practice! You will continue to create resentment amongst co-workers with your unfair practices.
WFH in OUS: what a joke!
Almost all the roles at TRP can be done fully remote, as has been proven by the associates allowed to work remote for the past 5+ years, and yet the majority of us still have to go in office to sit on Zoom all day. Justification of real estate? Control over employees? Idk but it makes no logical sense and they’re just destroying morale as quickly as possible.
A union could bargain for remote days for everyone.
@1ex "Enjoy your commute to the office bozo."...nothing like an anonymous internet bully.
@1en do you have to make changes on evenings and weekends? Do you have to go on an on call rota? Are you one of the only SMEs for a critical piece of technology so you essentially can be called anytime, including outside of on call?
Didn’t think so, I guess that’s unfair? Enjoy your commute to the office bozo.
@1dd I think they are just questioning the unfairness of it. Especially when it pertains to small cogs in the machine. Pure overhead to the parts of the company that actually make the money. They realized they are over paying and overcompensating most of you. But until Jennifer p was removed, dumping you was an impossibility.
Change is the law of life. And those who look only to the past or present are certain to miss the future,"JFK
Pathetic cr--s in bucket mentality on display here. Since you're upset you have to go in 4 days a week you want everyone else to suffer with you? Will that make your situation better? There is a real burden of unpaid out of hours work and on call for the majority of tech teams, which has sharply increased with headcount reduction.
@12b Yeah dawg. IT get yo A in the office and actually do some work
@10b yes that may have been true up to a year ago. However so may software dev jobs and tech roles in general are now redundant because of AI. The pendulum has swung in the other direction.
Full remote is a privilege for those who crush it with AI and deliver 10x results. You, on the other hand, are a black box—low impact and zero visibility. Hiding at home just screams 'communication-impaired.' Let’s be real: the talented engineers are already gone. So show up, and at least try to exchange some actual knowledge.
@10b I’ve seen this firsthand. If someone is critical to their team/department, they’re seemingly allowed to work remote indefinitely or they leave. I already know a handful of KM3/KM4’s currently that will leave if we’re required to come in office more than 2 days. It’s just not worth the commute for most people.
As someone in tech, I see the two-day in-office requirement as a reactive attempt to retain high-performing members of our technical team. We experienced significant attrition during the 2021–2023 hiring bo-m, and we still haven’t fully recovered. As a result, our level of legacy knowledge is critically low.
We now have newer team members trying to onboard and train underperforming offshore developers, which is leading to predictable breakdowns—yet we continue to act surprised when critical failures occur. At the same time, the broader technology industry continues to favor remote work, making it easier for employees to seek out alternative opportunities if that flexibility matters to them.
Not everyone will leave—but our most talented people are the most likely to. We’ve already seen this happen when the two-day mandate was previously introduced, and we lost key contributors as a result.
I’m not saying the policy is right or fair, but from my perspective, it feels more like a survival tactic than a long-term solution
@v2 IT actually has to be in the office for fights in the cafeteria to take place ;)
@va yeahay! You tell em!!!!
@v2 On point! Bad policies and management all the way around for several years now. It has caught up to them and that is why TRP is where it is with problems galore. Great outflows TRP and an excellent stock price eh? Keep preaching your collaboration and other bad policies TRP and you will continue to tank. Karma is a bi--h!
Congrats management! Can you see your In-Office policy has caused such friction in your workforce. I am surprised there aren't fist fights in the cafeteria - IT vs Everyone else! It is an inequity, and an unnecessary one. IMHO that $900M headquarters should have never been built. They should have renovated space at OM and moved everyone there, with more liberal remote policies - BASED ON JOB PERFORMANCE. Maybe some half days if there are important meetings? We're supposed to be happy workers collaborating, but people are miserable. We're bleeding money every quarter sure lets build almost billion dollar building we won't even own and of course have all of those fancy suites at stadiums. It seems like a small number are surrounding themselves in plushness and waterfront status so everyone else has to be dragged in to sit there all day to keep up an image. I had to deal with helpdesk a couple of weeks ago. I couldn't get an answer by phone. I have heard these offshore helpdesk workers in general work several jobs at once - for various companies. They don't give T Rowe or any other US company the dedicated service of actual workers. There is no way for T Rowe to track this. I'm learning a trade. Corporate office work su-ks anyway.
@n2 Correct or the people who have not been in for weeks or even months, would have been gone. Less pay, bonus, and leave accrual is not a bad idea.
I get that the entire company has just given up. We have a lot of incompetent seniors who aren't setting a proper example for the juniors. All they’ve shown is how to slack off and master the 'art of looking busy. Those seniors who can't evolve should just accept their fate of getting fired, instead of shifting the blame onto the younger generation.
They’ve tracked badge swipes in my office for the past few years. Whether or not they’ve done anything based on this information is questionable. Quite a lot of slackers still not in the mandated number of days. Also quite a few half dayers. It just feels like the whole company’s given up because there’s no equity and people know it.
@m6 tech develops solutions everyday. Have some respect. You sound pissy because you have to go in a few days a week. Cutting their pay wouldn't help.
Stop making excuses; IT needs to be in the office, too. There is only one reason: everyone else is doing it. Get in the office and develop proactive solutions to prevent any more critical situations. Anyone making up excuses to stay home or insisting on full remote should see a massive pay cut until they resign voluntarily. It’s either that, or we put the entire company on a full remote model. We can't have it both ways.
@fn Shouldn’t you be responding to the next crit sit? Two just today? Employees un able to log on, is kinda serious. “Hope you could maybe do your job since Monday, but probably not even as of Thursday afternoon” Bang up job. Yes sir. Can’t wait to hear this. We just had week long global disruption. I wonder what the cost was? Great argument for a 3-2. I sank your battle ship. Not the best week to get puffy. Let that sink in hombre.
@f2 news flash, voice and network are a small minority within IT, but now we know who's chirping (no surprise actually)
@fb I was responding specifically to the comment about IT, hombre. Yes, most roles can work remotely, which we learned during COVID.
@e1 yeah most of other teams’ work can be all done remotely as well. It’s a service industry hombre. It’s not like the company is a plumbing business. Maybe try thinking about what your colleagues outside of IT do.
Can the IT people stop playing the victim and gaslighting? Yes, there’s been numerous comments on IT people here. No, the majority of them don’t seem out of order. Have there been a flood of comments from IT people on here that seem entitled and seem to hate on foreigners, absolutely. Sounds like IT wasn’t your calling but becoming a spin doctor in PR is.
@e1 I see some of the app stuff. How are testing /fixing or replacing ports, WAPs, Traders phones. Switches, live news feeds etc? You must have one of those Tesla robots.
@e1 There are many teams where the work can be done remotely. I am not in IT and we come in 4 days a week and barely speak to our teammates or others. We are heads down in numbers trying to concentrate. Their collaboration BS is just an excuse to tell people to come in.
@am So which part is the best part exactly? Aside from racking machines, if you are just supporting apps and infrastructure there is nothing in the IT space that can't be done remotely. Coming into the OM offices just to sit on cr-ppy Teams calls with London, Pratt, NY, all day does not seem like a good use of anyone's time.
@OP tracking badging is not a new thing, now they are being more open about it. WRT to the separate in-office schedule for IT, I'm not sure they could accommodate more people in the office 4 days a week at the campus without buildings 5 & 6.
Before the "We hate IT people" group starts to feel too safe. Please review the list of services provided by Accenture: https://www.accenture.com/us-en/services In addition to IT, they offer Financial and Risk Management, Infrastructure and Capital Projects, Customer Service, Marketing and Experience, Sales & Commerce, Supply Chain, Strategy, Sustainability, Talent & Organization, and more. Yeah, they su-k just like the Accenture IT workers do, but they work CHEAP! And that is all that seems to matter anymore.
@b8 @b8 I could have written this post. I work in IT too. First I want to say YES it is unfair that some have to come in 4 days a week and us 2. But don't hate on IT people - we did not write that stupid rule. I have been sketchy with my coming in - I still get my work done and then some. But in light of this I will come in and do my two days a week - I will sit at a petri dish workstation that I have to spend 10 minutes wiping down with bleach wipes and then go and wash my hands after that. I will sit there and not talk to anyone. My best collaboration time was when we had assigned seats. I sat with my team. I knew where everyone was. My interactions are zoom meetings whether in office or out. It is getting to the point I am knowing less and less people to collaborate with. Between the growing populations of offshore workers and "retirements" I am sitting with strangers, and I have no clue what they are doing.
Yes - I am ACTIVELY looking and want to go somewhere more stable. People on here are just so nasty, particularly to "IT people". I don't understand why - everyone here is basically effed, just some sooner than others. Look around. And IT is not the only thing outsourced. Acco
@b8 I am not in tech and am required to come in 4 days a week, yet most people on my team are in EMEA and APAC, so I pretty much have no one to interact with either. The entire farce of needing everyone in the office for a global firm where teams are often spread out around the world is disingenuous as well, it’s not unique to tech. But y’all only need to participate in the farce twice a week, while we have to do it four times a week.
Moral of story, abide by the rules.
@ax long time reader here: a lot of the posts by the IT crowd on this website convey a sense of entitlement that is astounding.