My family has elected to move to Houston with the relocation being offered. It will be a huge financial and quality of life upgrade. I will miss the weather here and don’t look forward to the 3 hot summer months. However, the other 9 months are great! Who else has decided to move?
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Buh bye California 👋👋👋 lmao!
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Texas is second worst state for living!
hr2.chevron.com is public and shows all benefits including assorted relo packages.
Buh bye California! 👋👋👋
There seems to be someone trolling here for info who doesn't have access to common company relocation information. If you don't already know, you have no reason to be trolling a Chevron company thread and you don't need to know, it's none of your business.
So what specifically does the domestic relocation package offer?
Specifically.
All costs are covered per normal domestic relo package. Anyone can see it online.
What is the package that CVX is offering folks to move to Houston? What's included?
Moved from calif to houston n like it alot. Live in new territory in SW n love the older homes, older shade trees, lakes, trails, schools, etc. Deciding factor was shorter commute than Woodlands n less traffic in the area. People are very nice, safe in the suburbs, lots of shopping and great schools. Good luck …..
Another cool option is a loft downtown. Walk to work in the tunnels and skip the heat. Plenty of walkable dining and drinking plus opera, ballet, symphony, etc.
My advice in Houston is to find a small place with no yard to minimize your time outside and your bills for AC and property tax. Most people get a townhouse near the office.
It’s great right now in Houston, temp over 100 and heat index over 110, not to mention the insects or lack of any scenery. If you want to live where your primary objective several months of the year is to not come into any contact with the natural environment, this is the place for you. And, with any luck, a hurricane might come along.
“3 hot summer months” well bless your heart 🤣
I have lived in both and yes there are pros and cons. For me the cost of living, especially with a family, are too big to ignore in Houston.
It is not true that it is all ghetto or all terrible quality homes. I bought a house for $110/sq ft a year ago and it is fine. You do underestimate the maintenance because it just has more stuff to break.
If you are working for 30 years, you may say just stay in San Ramon and enjoy the lifestyle in the bay. For me it is better to save 3x for 10 years and then retire early. This is a personal decision but an easy one for me.
We moved from CA to TX several years back, and overall never regretted it. Check out The Woodlands Texas, great place. We miss CA mountains/ocean, and make a few trips back every year. Great place to visit, terribly run state. Meanwhile, yes your AC will crank more, and less time on TX I45/I10 highways the better, but many pros. Jobs were more in abundance here IMO.
Places like Cinco Ranch and New Territory are the worst of the Houston suburban h e ll. They construction quality is abysmal, homes packed in like sardines, HOA rules asinine, and commute to downtown brutal. These are mostly starter homes for immigrants.
@2ezf The first three words in the comment you’re referencing were actually “morality is subjective”.
Troll harder…..
@1zwo, my advise is to visit the newer or better established suburban neighborhoods of Sugar Land, TX. Checkout Telfair, New Territory and First Colony. Property taxes are lower here than most other parts of Fort Bend County. Another nice suburban neighborhoods not that far away are Cinco Ranch to the north and Riverstone to the south.
@1ehs, the only thing you said correctly in your comment are the 3 first words you remarked— “I don’t know”. 😆
Maybe this is prep for eventual XOM merger... hopefully San Ramon hold outs get paid off when that happens
It’s been around 90 degrees today in SR and managed to get out for a run early. Imagine attempting that in Houston with humidity even in the cooler months. Thanks and no thanks. What’s the point of a mini McMansion if tour kids can’t go out to enjoy it (and don’t even get me started on the bugs). Good luck to all but gonna be a big ol’ nope for us.
OP- Don’t say you haven’t been warned….
@1law Don’t move to Woodlands. Aside from being dramatically overrated, it’s an unincorporated area, which means that it’s largely ungoverned and you’ll have to pay out of pocket to maintain local infrastructure. County governments in TX do little besides tax your property and (sort of) maintain roads.
My advice: travel to the Houston area a few times before moving. Drive the highways, check the suburbs/school districts, make an informed decision.
Good luck….
@nyv Morality is subjective.
I don’t know where you’ve been in Texas, how long you were there, or who you interacted with. I don’t know what you mean by “moral values”. If you’re talking about overall behavior of people in general, then I can tell you that people in TX are as poorly behaved as people in CA or anywhere else in America. Perhaps worse, depending on how you score it.
Like I said, you’ll see what you get when you move there. I personally don’t care what you do with your life.
We have 30 year mortgage at 2.65% in Danville. Does Chevron really expect me to start a new loan in Texas at nearly 6%???
Selling out of Chevron Park, then leasing future "headquarters" space are continued 'cracks in the dam' for Chevron. Slowly but surely more and more responsibility will shift to Houston, that leased space maintained only until those California execs retire later this decade. With this and Richmond and Bakersfield becoming economically and PR less viable, Chevron is slowly ceasing to be a 'California company'.
I wonder if, following SR staff moves to Houston, it will result in a downsizing in Houston afterwards. So many people, so few positions. Talk about hunger games! I'd hate to move and subsequently lose job.
Houston is nothing but a sweaty concrete jungle. Yes, there is no income in TX but the property tax rates more than make up for that. You might get a total of a month or two of nice weather. There are no mountains, no where that is nice to hike or really be outdoors (unless you want to take a 4-5 hour drive to get there) and the beaches are awful. Crime rates are high, the amount of sweating you will do here is beyond reason. If your plan is to work here for 5-10 years and then retire somewhere nice than it might be worth it. But if you are from California, Houston is not a place you will want to call home for the long term.
Very simple choice. If you have quite a bit of career left, Houston is where you want to be. If you're executive management (or their cronies) and/or independently wealthy, or can flip over to Silicon Valley, SR will suit you just fine.
San Ramon California is by far the best place for long term Chevron employees. The high cost of living in the valley keeps out the undesirable poor people. Inept public schools in the poor areas of California ensures that your children will remain in the elite class in perpetuity. Cheap illegal labor keeps inflation lower. You can easily pretend to be virtuous while simultaneously increasing income inequality. There is no need to produce anything of value and you can be easily promoted by mindlessly repeating corporate and political slogans.
With almost exclusive access to downtown via Allen Parkway, River Oaks is an amazing place to live. The Catholic schools are best in the country. You will not find a finer area with such access to a downtown in any other city.
Bye bye fog, hills, wildfires and earthquakes; hello humidity, flatland, hurricanes, thunder and flooding. Anyone looking at the Woodlands neighborhood?
to each their own on where they will be happiest. I personally am thrilled that I can stay in California. I am happy we have choice (in more ways than one). It is unfortunate those in Houston who would rather be in California don’t have that choice too.
The humidity in Houston alone is enough for not to move. The worst city to live, only if you have family in Houston it might be a reason you want to stay, this place is not worth to have your precious time and life wasted in. Any other city is better and I mean any other city!
Bye bye California! 👋
News from Friday, June 24 reads “ Chevron to relocate head office within California, sell existing HQ”. The current headquarters in San Ramon will be on the selling block. The new HQ location, yet undisclosed, will be leased. The keyword here is LEASED. Chevron is expected to shift its headquarters to the new site during the third quarter of 2023. The company will also cover moving costs for employees who opt to shift to its Texas campus, according to a report.
One can start to see the writing on the wall, Chevron’s exit strategy is sneaky. First it will crawl into leased space and later on if California continues to squeeze them, will quickly relocated to a safe tax location in Texas or elsewhere. You read it here first. Memorize it.
There are pros and cons of California and Texas. Each person will need to evaluate for themselves. For us, moving to Houston is the right decision. 👍
@ncm, yes if you search hard into every little nook and cranny of the city you may find some areas in the hood that are almost as immoral as Kalifornication but it's nowhere near as extreme. That's any state. But in general you're not dealing with all the dr-ggies, needles, pervs, homeless everywhere, etc. , in most parts.
Happy for all those who choose to move to Texas, knock yourself out. Odd that the pro Texas commenters seem to think they are in a position to judge the morals of others, they must have lived an incredibly sanctimonious life to have earned that right. I’ve spent plenty of time in Houston and could not be happier I’m not moving there, but to each his own.
I’m moving to Houston. Will be using the equity I’ve made on my home and buy a small mansion in a nice gated community outside of Houston. And no state income tax (saving over $50k/year). So excited!!!!! 👍