Thread regarding Xerox Corp. layoffs

I personally achieved the highest customer service rewards Xerox recognized that came from the person I spoke to on the phone. This took “speed learning” as I worked the After Hours Support team requiring you to learn not just the printers but every support tool or platform for whatever service contract. Paid little to do anything. High turnover. Too many bosses and even using channels within organization, ultimately you are only worth your pay as little as it was for unrealistic expectations.

Union formation slowed due to the Corona Virus Pandemic which limits our ability to meet at this time. Facebook page running strong.

Yes, lots of luck!

Can someone provide us a status of creating the union in Saint John?

Up-vote this if you are on the FB page.

X will just get cozy with whatever union you join. They pretty much own all UNITE locals.

I think unionizers missed the boat, the stern is lifting out of the water...

Social media is a great tool. If you work at Place 400/Tech Drive, you'll likely start hearing echos of this union through the people we have been able to contact. We are trying to keep anonymous so that we don't show our cards. This is about timing. We will find a way to get the info to you. While most of us are in lock-down this isn't the time. If you are someone who is in the private group already, do you part, and invite those you know who sympathize.

It's pretty important to note:
There are Xerox management who are monitoring this and wish to discourage a union.
Posting that shameful position on this website is not only painfully transparent, but morally obscene.

Does anyone really want to be paid just over minimum wage to work full time for a company that provides them no protection as an "essential front line worker". People who start at Xerox are led to believe that there is promise and hope, and that Xerox is. a great company. Once you're behind the curtain, its an entirely different story. "if you don't like it get a different job so Xerox can hire another person".

To say "quit if you don't like it" just feeds these money grubbing employers.

the idea of a mass sick day/walk out is very bold
Do it!!
Not like they can ask for a doctors note and pretty impossible to prove anyone wasn’t sick.

I can’t get over the amount of advice that is “quit and find another job” instead of choosing to take a stand as a group.
The “quit” attitude allows companies to line up by the thousands and keep shafting all employees everywhere.
I look at this as a collective statement that should get the attention of all employers that the good old fashioned group of _you is alive and well, and that people will only take so much before they fight back.
Take no pity on Xerox because they took no mercy on you and for the first person that says “so you want everyone to lose their job because you did?”
And the answer is I want everyone not to fight for my job, I want them to fight for THEIRS!
Stick together and send the message!!!!

Which place in Saint John (building 400 or Technology Place) is trying to form a union?

TechPowerHouse employs lots of winners like @6qia+14bRV03T. That's why their products are the best. Tech. Power. House.

The first 400 irifs!

Place 400 employees willing to take part in a one day walk-off, a date will be set soon.

So you think anyone who disagrees with you should be shut down. Sounds familiar and predictable.

I will weigh in on this one. My first post, but this heckler needs to be shut down.

He goes on a "ridiculous website" to tell others to solve their situation by quitting instead of standing up for themselves.

At your next managers conference call, you might want to tell them we need PPE out here, people will be dyin

Last poster, not discounting your situation at all. But you need to solve it, not whine on a ridiculous web site. A union will not help your current work environment. If you think it will, you do not understand the world. I have forbid members of my family to go to their jobs and we will take a financial hit. Health is the most important concern.

To the people posting how silly it would be to form a collective agreement (union):

You don't feel we need to form a collective agreement that protects workers rights and salaries and safety. You feel that if we don't like it here, we should get a different job. You feel that Xerox is too fragile to take on a worker trying to assert his rights.

You need to get off your couch and perhaps do a service call, or contribute something worthwhile to this company, or at least respect the rights of the workers who are on the front line risking their lives without hazard bay and proper PPE, earning the money that pays you to be on your couch.

A union at a company that won’t be around in 12_28 months? What will that prove?. Like @3ioa+14bRV03T said - spend your energy getting a job somewhere else. It’s a lost cause at xerox.

I agree with grow a backbone and stop being a doormat. But do that by working somewhere else, not by convincing yourselves that you can somehow get blood out of a stone or deserve more. What would you gain? Guaranteed employment and benefits? For how long? Annual 5% increases? For how long? It would be a much better use of time to improve your skills and find better jobs instead of trying to force XRX into an unsustainable arrangement.

To the person who asked what forming a union will accomplish:
Anything and everything you aren’t doing.

What is with people on this site so willing to just roll over and take it?
Grow a backbone and stop being a doormat

I'm one of the contracted employees hired through an employment agent, 400 PLACE SAINT JOHN, laid off Fri March28. Didn't hear one fu king peep from management (before during or after.) No "I'm sorry" .... No "here's one week's pay to take the sting out" Nothing, PATHETIC. ABSOLUTELY PATHETIC. I hope buzz feed catches wind of their heartless b—s—. They Love to brag about the billions of $$$ they make, in training. Such b—s—, I could go on and on. We all expect the higher ups to be sociopathic.... But your direct supervisor ghosting u? PATHETIC. I won't mention names but they know. I hope they read this.

What do you guys think a union will accomplish?

@2bpr+14bRV03T: false statement. The OWBPA report provided to me clearly shows age discrimination. I also have OWBPA reports from other actions for other orgs at XRX. In aggregate the picture comes into even greater focus- the older ones were targeted.

Tell the truth to your bosses in an email. (more than one boss, boss's boss too)
Once they get told in an email, they can't make you work in a dangerous workplace.

that's all you need to do

BTW, there is no chance of age discrimination. The IRIFs were evenly distributed across the all ages. Anyone that understood the volume would know that.

Lucky to have a job that sends you out in a pandemic? You MUST be management sitting on your a– at home. Corporate sends out a letter stating they shut down client services in Italy. Well Bravo! Maybe someone should tell Corporate there are more cases in California and NYC than Italy.
Where is a written letter for each tech to carry stating Xerox has essential status? Where are the essential business postings on these copy shops doors?
Union? How about Lawsuit.

Let’s assume Xerox gets wind of this and moves to shut down the center quickly as someone had suggested in a swift reaction.
Is that not proof of union busting and is that not an action that can be brought to charges resulting in a lawsuit?
I don’t think there’s that much worry over the risk of shutting down the call center. After all, they signed another 5 year lease right?
Surely that’s the safety statement of all time so relax, you have zero worries!
(No sarcasm there at all)

LOVE THIS IDEA
ALL IN and so should everyone still employed by Xerox be in favor of this as well
What do you have to lose???
And to the “person” suggesting they are “out”?
See y’all later! We wish you well in your future endeavors (sound familiar?)

I've been part of union avoidance training at Xerox before. They didn't call it that, but that's what it was.

And you can be 100% sure that if they think a union is forming they will make drastic changes, at lightning speed, to prevent it from happening.

I'm up for a union.
to the poster that says we should take abuse because the company needs us, you are part of the problem. Every person at Xerox has a right to be treated with respect, with compassion and provided a safe workplace. Suggesting that they wouldn't survive a union is admitting they are abusing us. Should a wife beater not be arrested for fear of breaking up the family? is that what you're saying? My guess is that you have an inflated salary for your skill set and appreciate your job because you have no real skills. the truth hurts.

Xerox succccckkkkks bro

Quite easy to do.
Just look at the US PS Connection email list.
All those who tell they have been let go usually say how long they've been with the company. That's a start.

Does anyone have a document showing the names and ages of all the people laid off? We could have an age discrimination lawsuit since most of xerox's workforce have high seniority. laying us off is just a means to introduce a much younger workforce. Pushing us into HCL was just a means of masking the layoffs.

It's already in the works. Meetings in Saint John, feasibility study in the works, structure is worked out.

New York talking sh!t again! I’ve heard New York tech talk about unions for the past 30 years.

Alright I’m out. This site is ridiculous, your all lucky to have a job right now! Xerox is more liable to go bankrupt again or sell then to be ABLE to support a union. P.S. they’ll just outsource or change the position to a contract position if they have to.

Correction. We have the numbers to form a Xerox-wide union.