We deserve a fair day's pay for a fair day's work too.
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@3xtt+1oCTdilu. Union employees have fully funded retiree health care. Salaried do not. Even those that had it when they retired. That is something.
Ford already has a salaried union. UAW Local 1970. Its made up of Product Engineering Designers, nurses, lab workers and some test track workers. I was a member for many years. The only thing this union gets you is guaranteed overtime pay for everything over 40 hours in a week and Reductions/layoffs are based on seniority, but management can pick and protect up to 10% from being laid off by seniority. Everything else is the same that I remember.
Unions protect the weakest links. The company doesn't owe the employees anything beyond a safe working environment. And that doesn't include people's feeling being hurt. I'm not paying union dues so the person next to be works half as well but makes the same amount and can't be fired or they'll cry to the 'union'.
What good thing have unions ever done in the history of this country?
Salaried should form union to protect engineers/white collars against sudden layoffs. Which seems to happen frequently since 2017 [not Ford employee but have witnessed constant layoffs of friends who worked at Ford]
I earned over 120k last year as a GSR. 40 hours per week and uninterrupted weekends. I like my situation. I doubt a union would help me much.
If you call your union that you will cause confusion for United Arab Emirates
: @1zbr My salary hasn’t gone up 20% in 4 years. U must have gotten top achiever 4 years in a Ron and been in the 1st quartile
Salaried should unionize to protect American engineers and American students against foreign H1-B. Ford sponsored less than 100 visas 10 years ago, last year they sponsored more than 900. Companies don't have to support work visas or pit American engineering jobs against a global supply of engineers.
The last thing that salaried ranks need is more protections for slacker friends & family workers. Thats exactly what will come out of a salaried union.
UAW says CEO pay has gone up by 40% in 4 years. Using that formula, most salaried folks are underpaid by about 20%. That might be a good enough reason for form a salaried union and go on a sit-down strike (since the UAW is already doing a stand-up strike). We can call our union the UAE (United Auto Engineers).
If union gets 40% salaried people will be cut by 40%...
I think our union could still allow us to climb the ladder, if that's what we want. There are unions in government, which function this way. A professional union simply helps protect against retaliation and bias from management. Any of us who have been here for a length of time have been a witness to waste, fraud, and abuse. Abusive management violates both their fiduciary responsibly to the shareholders and to the reports below them. The only difference is we are currently forced to remain silent when we are victims of abuse or witnesses to crimes.
No, I don't want to get paid exactly the same as the do-nothing at my same level. I prefer being able to earn more than the space takers. And I certainly do not want the space takers protected.
If my job becomes unionized i will quit.
I got skills and not a loser sorry but unions are for people with little skills that are in demand.
How do we get started. Any Union reps on this site? Let’s Go….
If they get 40 %, we get 40 %. Nothing else to discuss.
You're dreaming.
Not necessarily a bad idea, but I think most salaried positions desire to eventually enter management. A salaried union would likely prevent that, and the primary driver for promotion in unions is time-in-service as opposed to accomplishments or competence.
I'm in, but they need to make it easier for us to contact them. I am tired of all the cr-p we have to deal with LL3 and LL4 egos and lack of professional judgement.