Thread regarding Wells Fargo & Co. layoffs

WAVE VDIs & MS Surface

A year ago, Leo Brito stood in front of us in a Town Hall and said that due to issues with WAVE VDIs that WF would be moving towards Microsoft Surface PCs instead.

Now when I think of all the time/money/effort we've spent moving to MS Cloud based apps (Exchange/Teams/SharePoint), that kind of makes sense, I bet we'd get a good deal from MS for being all in but haven't heard anything since.

Anyone know if MS Surface workstations are still happening?

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what a mess

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Post ID: @7sjf+1qd2SnxH

@4yss+1qd2SnxH
They've already spent the money on the VMWare infrastructure, so in the end that money will be wasted. The money they spend on the thin clients isn't a waste because those can be used to access the new cloud based devices. So it makes some sense to continue the rollout. Plus, pushing people to use the thin clients helps save in pc/laptop costs and all the money paying for people to support them.

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Post ID: @5swt+1qd2SnxH

if WAVE is going away then why are they still pushing it out? My LOB will start getting it in a few weeks. Additionally, they've been rolling out thin clients across the enterprise. Not that I would put it past this company to waste money, why spend millions to keep rolling something out that will be going away very shortly. I know they had issues and paused rollouts for a while but seems they either fixed those issue or decided to roll out anyway, because this freight train is coming.

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@3ygr+1qd2SnxH
"WAVE VDI will be going away. The pen test team was able to hack into a VDI session running on a laptop."

I can't say I'm surprised. They're letting you run it from personally owned devices. On the surface of it, WAVE looks secure because you're just using your own device as a window into a totally secure system that it's impossible for you to install any of your own software on, and which gets a fresh image every other day or whatever.

But then you look at the old school way of hacking - taking over someone's KVM (keyboard, video, mouse). Once you have a window open into a secure environment, you can hack the insecure (personal device) and you have access into the secure device. I still think VDI holds a ton of potential, but you'll always have the possibility that the personal device will be compromised since WF can't control that personal device.

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Post ID: @4ufu+1qd2SnxH

Shocking. 😐

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Post ID: @3cik+1qd2SnxH

WAVE VDI will be going away. The pen test team was able to hack into a VDI session running on a laptop.

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Post ID: @3ygr+1qd2SnxH

Ah Leo. SVB’s scapegoat. DEI poster child. Failure personified.

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Post ID: @2iky+1qd2SnxH

Windows surfaces are still being pushed out some people are getting these new devices.
Working with wxps I can tell you that Leo cut funding to vdi and they are currently testing Azure virtual machines to replace that entire VMware vdi infrastructure they started testing of that early 2023. Wxps is also testing in tune for the last 2 years.
Because Microsoft laid off all of wxps pfes wxps has been unable to make any headway in this infrastructure... Currently Wells Fargo is trying to have Microsoft to assign some pfes so that wxps principal engineers can finish with Azure virtual machines and InTune creation.

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Post ID: @1kzm+1qd2SnxH

Here's what I've heard. Due to having too many outages, a poor user experience, and an incompatiblilty with cloud technologies, WAVE will be dead in 2 years, replaced by cloud VMs in Microsofts cloud.

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Post ID: @1ybn+1qd2SnxH

I had issues with VDI at first but its been working great for months

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Post ID: @1ltt+1qd2SnxH

Good to see them doing something, rather than the party line for ages, which was basically:

  1. You will never be issued a new computer by the company
  2. You must use WAVE VDI, which we have declared is perfect
  3. You must supply your own computer for WAVE VDI if your WF one is too old
  4. There is nothing wrong with WAVE VDI, if you have problems then YOU are the problem

While I personally had no end of problems using WAVE VDI on my WF laptop, it worked perfectly on my own personal computer. However I knew full well that tons of people had problems with it regardless of what system they used.

Now I'm laid off and don't have to care, I guess, but it's still sad to see the company floundering and changing directions left and right. Did I understand from earlier posts correctly they still can't pick a 2FA solution and stick with it either? I had to use 3 as of the time of my laptop; RSA, HYPR, and something else which I now forget because we'd only just implemented it like a week or two before I was laid off.

CS wants to improve efficiency? How about quit changing the direction of the whole company every two years?

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Post ID: @1xpl+1qd2SnxH

MS laptops are being deployed. Just received one a few weeks ago.

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Post ID: @1nly+1qd2SnxH

As long as it's implemented via Agile there won't be any issues....might as well get rid employees and use Agile and AI. Use Agile methodology and all will be okay.... Senior leadership in IT is useless.... "let's use Agile and implement a overbearing beauracy to make it impossible to implement anything. Next we will give bad reviews to employees for not getting anything done. We need to be commended for our great leadership! Let's have another Town Hall meeting!"

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Post ID: @dli+1qd2SnxH

All that matters is technology be implemented in an Agile way. There's no time to discuss strategy, design, user experience, best practices or listen to any employees.

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Post ID: @qwd+1qd2SnxH

Wave from the getgo does not work as it has so many issues with it.

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Post ID: @wkd+1qd2SnxH

LB true disaster. We all know the strategy is to get rid of wf procured laptops and move to byod with the disastrous Wave

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