Thread regarding Ford layoffs

Do they think word won't get around and they will lose NA and EU customers? Isn't NA the largest F-150 market? I am doing my part to spread the word, they don't deserve loyalty.

@3txx

I agree it can be done. The product designers at Stellantis are UAW members.

Stellantis also does not target workers over 50. If you are a older new hire, you will be forced to "run the gauntlet" as part an initiation process. Once you survive this (about 1-2 year process), you are all set. You are basically getting accustomed to and accepting the corporate culture. They are used to ex-GM and Ford folks. Mostly GM but some Ford.

When MBA / Marketing / Sales types have lead Ford it has always been a disaster.
The culture of misrepresenting facts and covering up flaws is deeply ingrained at Ford. Mulally worked hard to purge the fibbing culture but as soon as he was gone it was quickly back to business as usual.

During the first forays into off-shoring work to India, there were multiple concerns raised and documented. All were deleted from the reports upward and at the same time false accomplishments were added in. A few of the many documented problems were Intellectual Property leakage due to extremely high turnover rates of employees; leakage of customers personal information; huge disparities in the stated skills of employees vs actual skills. Ford set up basic skills training classes when this was realized and as soon as the employees were marginally competent they quit for greener pastures.
Anyone who questioned the rosy success stories were quickly labeled as malcontents and shown the door. The same issues persisted and were papered over. Many Ford IT areas had to go on US hiring sprees in early 2000s to replace all the US IT they had fired after they had claimed off-shoring victory. They had to do this because of the code quality and massive project failures (never publicly acknowledged). Fast forward 15 years, the same problems exist, but are hidden and we are doing the same thing we did in early 2000’s.

I’ve always wondered why Ford as a company was so set on self-destruction. Why does the Ford family want to be lied to? They must or they would of corrected the behavior long ago.

instead of cutting engineering jobs, Ford (Boston Consulting, etc.) must understand how Stellantis is twice as profitable with ICE portfolio with same American based engineering headcount and using the same UAW workforce.
Moving engineering to England, Germany, Mexico, India has risks w/o experienced american based engineering manpower that can solve quality issues.
Ford must address their dealerships attention to customer issues. If Ford subsidiary could 100% own or at least have majority stake on some critical dealerships then they would have direct access to play with Disney's type of customer attention. Otherwise, all those grandiose ideas about how to improve customer satisfaction are just insular ideas w/o any grounding in auto dealerships retrograde mentality

Thought starter :engineers can unionize

The 25,000 too many salary really means 25,000 too expensive salary. In order to pay both Bill Ford and Farley $20,000,000 per year, we need engineers in Mexico that will be happy working for $20,000 per year.

As an investor, I want to see sales numbers for data and subscriptions BROKEN OUT. All the hype doesn’t replace the F-150 cash cow, and GM is already selling more pickups than we are.

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Okay, Farley…

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"Supposedly" ??

Digital software/services and subscription-based revenue streams will 100% be Ford Model e's contribution to the company, and will be the main profit center going forward. There are no limits. We have top leadership in place. We have idea creation second to none. Cannot wait till our customers get to experience what we have in store!

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Supposedly, “Ford Drive will continue to develop new digitally connected mobility businesses.” I hope this entire group of non performers is reviewed. They are losing billions of dollars on ideas that produce ZERO significant revenue. I think Farley said they would have their own P&L like Blue and Model e. They certainly should be held accountable to shareholders. 2023 earnings calls will be interesting.

Lots of rumblings on next round of ' Monarch ' or ' Viceroy ' - next wave of separations Q1 '23. Primary targets whoever is left from the Boston Consulting pension eligible list. Ford Drive is also under review for horrific under performance. Product teams also under review for under performing, some reorg happening ( again, surprise! ) Jae Park will evaluate skills and eliminate under performers.

It’s a fact that Ford had 25,000 too many salary employees. As soon as your younger, cheaper replacement is hired and trained in Mexico, your performance will degrade and you will be on a PEP, if not immediately terminated.