Personal interests aside, I’m with Elon. The guy has guts to tell it like it is. Chevron should do the same to shut down the highly paid entitled lazy whiners.
https://www.cnbc.com/2022/06/01/elon-musk-reportedly-tells-tesla-workers-to-be-in-office-full-time-or-resign.html
No one is waiting on me to finish anything so all of you can stfu.
@7fvu, Those are the same ones who claim that they can get more done if they were 100% WFH, and of course, they expect everyone to believe that they are trustworthy.
Working in the office in DT Houston, you see the ones who claim to come in early spend their first 60-90 mins on the clock at the 1400 gym. Then they spend another 30-45 mins BS'ing while they get coffee, and then it's off to a "meeting" aka hanging out in the 1500 mezzanine for 20 mins while they "catch up" with "colleagues" (or more likely, checking Reddit on their phone). Soon it's back to their desk and maybe 30 mins of actual work, then it's lunchtime and 60-90 more mins of being MIA. After lunch it's time for the token 30-45 mins of "calls" and pretty soon it's time to head to the vanpool at 3pm. Same thing day in and day out. What a joke.
@4zso, Yeah, I hear you man, I'm so dang efficient when I WFH that I usually get my 9 hrs of work done each day by around 7 or 8 am, then I'm off to play golf or hit the hiking trails the rest of the day, ROTFL!
LOL, all the scamming and getting away with this and that invariably bubbles to the surface during the long-winded millennial discussions and rants of how incredibly trustworthy and hard-working they are when they WFH as opposed to going to the office. You can't make this up, lmao!
@3sgz Haha…and don’t forget these vanpoolers were also on 9/80 and supposed to work 9 hour days! So many have been scamming on 9/80 schedule but company leaders are too stupid to know or care. They’re not incentivized to run a financially effective ship. Only when there is a reorg and they’re forced to cut staff do they do so. Never does a manager regularly question whether they’re over staffed and are rewarded for running an efficient ship. Most of the time they don’t even have a clue what their team is working and the staff needed to perform the work, instead relying on status quo.
WFH = Whole lot of F’ing off at Home., Yes indeed. @1vbd, you got that spot on!
What's the difference between using the gym at home for several hours on company times like we all do now and having to waste time driving in to do it? I fail to see the purpose. I can get a much better work out at home and also I can take care of the kids, do all of my housework and cleaning and plenty of other relaxing activities while on the clock. I think that these boomers around here are behind the times and need to get with the program. None of us should have to work more than 1 or 2 hours a day to earn our pay, healthcare, 401k contributions, time off with pay, paid vacations, etc. It's just too hard and disrupting all our our lives and upsetting our work/life balance. If anything they should be paying us all MORE to have to endure this Covid and Inflation induced stress and trauma.
Commute is paid time for some. I had a buddy on a company van pool that arrived daily at 7:30 and departed at 3:30. That is 8 hours in the office minus an hour for lunch is 7. Some of them used the gym 7:30-9 so factor that in as well.
Yea we will never go back to the office full time. A lot of boomers living in the past is what I am reading.
@3xyv I think the point being made is work your 40 hours a week but some around here seem to want more than that 40 hours and companies to be in control of a lot more. Employees are finally making things better for themselves, less commute and more time for family, but some just can't stand that and want the companies to force it back to where their time is ruled by the company. You want to have a nice weekend off, if the company is generous enough to allow you then you can. You want to take some time to get married. If the company is ok with that then go for it. People work your 40 hours at home, on the moon where ever. As long as the work is getting done that shouldn't matter where its getting done. People should be working their full time to not cheat the company but after the 40 hours the employee controls the time. Its time people learn that. Maybe commute time should be paid time now that WFH has been proven to work just fine.
I will never understand why rank and file employees, the average joes, seem to support authoritarian methods for things. Employees are finally after years of abuse demand better lives for people and some average joes want dictator type brutality for themselves and other employees. There is more to life that the job. The country will be in a better place if we would get past all of that. Yes work hard and give the company good work but damn the company shouldn't be the number 1 priority for anyone but the executives.
Elon at this point seems to be having some kind of breakdown or midlife crisis. We are laying off!! Actually we are hiring!!! Should we really be listening to to this guy at this point? He's all over the place.
Whine and snivel…
I keep telling people why can't we force people in their contracts to disavow families and personal life until they retire and just focus on the company. Thats what matters in life. Make the office into sleeping quarters and we already have the cafeterias. Vacation time is meant for more work as are holidays. Dedicating your life to your job is American Freedom and exactly what we need to get things back on track! Murica!
All employees in every industry think they are such a hot commodity now and have the upper hand demanding to WFH. Wait till recession hits and companies start laying off. Y’all won’t be feeling all high and mighty no more. Will probably be back in the office showing your face and kissing bu-t.
OP is about as d-mb as they come. Simple as that.
@2vww, Wrong. If you have no goals nor aspirations and nothing to achieve and achieve nothing, like many who complain on this site, you are a loser. If you love what you do and make a successful, fulfilling, possibly lucrative career out of it and maybe even "dedicate your life to it", no matter what it is, writing, acting, engineering, community service, etc., then you are the exact opposite of a loser.
Carry on.
Anyone that dedicates their life to their job is a loser.
Companies need to be careful with the talk of outsourcing things cheaper. If anyone has dealt with the outsourced labor in IT the quality is just not there in many cases. If they think work is not getting done now do some outsourcing and they will really see it.
The employer has the upper hand. Report to the office or accept your pink slip. Sure employees can resist office work but employers can release persons who refuse. Chevron provides good pay and benefits for employees. Accepting compensation is reason enough to report to work as directed. Problematic situations will be resolved one way or the other. You are being offered a mixed schedule with some office time and work from home time as well. Its a cake walk; be thankful.
Once WFH becomes accepted by all and long term policy set, I will definitely get out of Houston. Nice country home in a small central Texas community is where I plan.
Only problem is that if I can work remotely, can’t Indians, Koreans, Malaysians do my job much cheaper?
Gee, how did working at least 40 hours in the office instead of working from home turn into people arguing about the company not being entitled to more than 40 hours? Don’t think that was Elon’s or other commenter’s point at all. All they’re saying is to work your 40 in the office and if you need to put in more hours (remember exempt employees don’t get overtime for a reason), then you can do it from home. Makes total sense to me. So for all the people complaining about the company expecting you to give up your family and life for the them, stop twisting it around and trying to make this about something else! The fact is we all know most people are not putting in at least 40 hours/week consistently. And don’t give the bs about how some weeks you work more than 40 so it balances out. The expectation for exempt workers is to work at least 40 hours a week if you’re full time. I will be the first to admit that I can do what I need to do in about 25 hours a week. The other 15 hours are freebies that the company gives me for my family/life balance haha. That’s why I dont mind working for Chevron and putting up with the occasional cr-p. Now, if I no longer have WFH option, it would be a great inconvenience as I’d have to pretend to work 40 hours in person instead of from home.
We forgot to be inclusive some people might be circling it to the male employees up in the office. Probably a lot of boomers like that. Circling it to working for the man and looking at his fellow man!
40 hours isn't long hours but anything over that the company isn't entitled to. People on here seem to think the company is entitled to more than that. What is wrong with getting more time with your family and cutting out the long commutes that are not needed. A company doesn't own you so get over that. Any non executive thats fighting for the company to force extra work and take personal time is far gone in life.
WFH = Whole lot of F’ing off at Home.
@1don, Well most non-tech support companies don't allow WFH for all employees so there's that. If "other companies" pay more, you should "bother" because you need to pay your bills and/or feed your family and save for retirement so that you are not a parasite on society. I have never met many young ambitious workers early in my career who would not move for a significantly higher salary. My, things have changed. I can assure you that "WFH" is now synonymous with "doing a lot less work at my own leisurely pace only if I feel like working that day".
Other companies pay more than CVX. If they won't let me WFH, why should I bother?
@1kqf, long hours? 40 hours a week like you agreed to is suddenly "long hours" ????
Sure sounds a lot like many of you decided that you want something for nothing after being spoiled during Covid lax work requirements.
Oh man, how did I stumble into the angriest boomer circle jerk this side of Fox News.
People should work but they can work just as well at home as they can up in the office where people chit chat, head to the cafeteria to hang out for a while or waste time. I don't understand some people's obsession with wanting people to work longer hours than you should, over 40 hours a week and take time from your family. What does doing that get you in the long run? Regret for the time you wasted and maybe an extra cent or two for the shareholders? Give the company your best effort but make sure family comes first. If you have such a poor family life you want to work non stop and want other people to do the same i pity you.
So for all the peeps who want to WFH so they can spend more time with their kids and family, or do laundry, or run errands whenever you want, why don’t you find a job where you can work part time? Or propose to your boss to job share with another person who have the same ideals so you can both work part time? Novel concept, huh?!
Probably no takers cuz the entitled cheaters want to work part time for full time pay by “working from home”.
Shoot, I can't understand why they are even making us work at all, at home or otherwise, lol. They should just be paying us for being here, at home, wherever. They should pay us for the sheer privilege of even having us on their payroll, or anywhere near them, ROTFLMMFAO!!!
@1rsz Well, you certainly revealed a point with your comment. That you don't work for Chevron and that you are just a troll.
Elon is running his company into the ground and is gaslighting his employees to justify the recently announced TSLA layoffs.
The CVX Chief Diversity Officer (lol) was so excited when everybody had to come back to the office. What was she excited about? Solving business problems that can only be worked face-to-face? Delivering incremental value that couldn’t be achieved in a wfh model? Saving money through efficiencies of being in an office? Nope, nope, nope. She was looking forward to other people making her food and coffee. You can find the video on the intranet searching for “leading jo--t call Jan 13 recording” and it’s around the 26:40 mark.
@1hon I feel so bad for those abused and bullied executives being forced to give people more of their life back. Why can't people understand we owe everything to them and should work ourselves into an early grave to increase that dividend a penny.
I somewhat think if we made everyone in the company salaried and cut all hourly work with paid overtime some of these people preaching and in love with working super long hours will suddenly be against it when they are only paid for 40 hours a week. I think thats a great idea!
@mfr Sounds a bit like slavery. I thought that was gone but it seems some might want it back on here. Unless you are an executive I can't understand why you are desperate for people to work long hours and miss out on family life. It gets us rank and file no where. The company doesn't care about us.
Rather humorous.
Version 1: 9/80s and other alternate work schedules were offered years ago to provide employees with more flexibility and work/life balance. Started with strict requirements, ie, your day off could not be swapped and you still needed to work and/or be available when required.
Version 2: Then the rules were relaxed and people started swapping their days and weren’t really expected to work on their off days. And if you were one of the smart ones, you’d “swap” so often that no one could keep track of whether you were scheduled to be off or not LOL.
Version 3: And then people started to not even work, or worked less than 8 hours on their scheduled 9/80 work day.
Version 4: And now all the cry babies want even MORE flexibility and work/life balance by working from home at whatever hour of the day or for however many hours they feel like want.
Sad state of affairs. Corporate leaders are being “bullied”/made to feel that everyone will jump ship if WFH is taken away. Truth is we are all replaceable. Not one of us have so much talent that someone else won’t have as much or more of!