IMHO, EVs are a Pet Rock -Shiny Object. Things never advertised about them: Diving range and charge times in hot and cold weather (significant differences), Avg. insurance cost increase of 25% vs ICE vehicles. Battery replacement costs of -10k -15k for battery replacement for battery & labor. Cr-p shoot for purchasing a used EV. BTW what is the trade in value of an EV after 3-4 years? Would you buy a used EV? Automotive business is about making $. Ford employees are like cattle. If the herd is too big, time to cull them. Nothing more or less, no matter who makes d-mb decisions. Do your homework before picking a new employer and the market they serve. Think before you leap! Good luck!
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EVs are great. You can use them to power your refrigerator if you come home to a power failure. Unless you were counting on charging when you got home. Maybe you need to upgrade that gas powered backup.
EVs will be more convenient for the rich, since their cost and inconvenience will keep the poor and middle class off the road. Can you imagine if the majority of cars on I75 headed up north on a summer Friday were EVs? What a mess that would be.
@1tsy+1ijGif2a, quality issues aside. The charging is inconvenient. EVs do nothing to solve issues from traditional ICE vehicles, other than people wanting to switch from gas. As a form of mobility though, they're less convenient until can solve the charge times with ample amount of range, they'll be inferior.
eVisallhype, you're conflating quality issues with a Tesla with EVs in general. Winter charging and range concern points are spot on, but Teslas are not put together that well and are over hyped from a brand perspective.
I don't think the country is ready for complete EV adoption no matter what the OEMs predict. Maybe in 20+ years they'll be in the majority. As for now, they're great as a second car, imo.
@1udf+1ijGif2a my fiance owned a Model Y and sure it seems cool & is quick, outside of that the nostalgia wears off. Her best friend and her brother talked her into it during the pandemic, which she sold her 2015 BMW 335i for and regrets. It was supposed to have like 280 Miles of range, it never got more than 230 Miles & that was on a cool day that we didn't have to crank the ac and was a short trip to Cincinnati. With range in the winter it plummeted to barely 128 Miles when we made the same trip to see her family, forcing us to stop and charge 3 times to make it to Cincinnati area. She lived in a townhome & she could not charge while living there, so everything had to charge while she was out, or at her work on poor level 2 charging which takes more time then what people say, especially if you're below 20%. There were several times that she had forgotten her badge or had to run home to get something and she could not return back to the office because of range and charging times. The car squeaks, rattles, had to have new tires at 18,000 Miles, had to have one of the motors serviced for 5 weeks, leaked water in the passenger side door, barely cooled the compartment, it was more expensive to insure, it sucked. She got a new job in Ann Arbor area, which has plenty of chargers, but she got sick of the car and constantly having to charge and precondition the battery and wait around doing nothing. She traded it in and got a 2022 Mercedes C class, which is a superior vehicle. She said she would never go back to electric until it's as convenient as gas & that means less than 5 minute fill ups, which isn't going to happen for a long time. People are switching back from EV because it's not convenient and it causes more problems than they're worth. I've driven EV and really was not impressed. It's fun for a few days, after that, unless I'm making a YouTube channel on the strip going 200mph it's pointless.
@1gpd I don't see anyone saying it's the only way. There is certainly some fringe use cases for ICE that will be tough to overcome. That being said, electric is simply a better propulsion method for the vast majority of consumers and the market is reflecting that. Go drive an EV and you'll understand.
The people saying EVs are the only way, must be the ones who wore their masks too much & too tight. Evs & ICE have a future, but to say that Evs are the only way, clearly they don't understand most people's needs or wants. The more you push EVs the less people will be willingly accepting or consider them. Evs are hype, thats about it. Ford wishes to be valued like Tesla & Farley wants to be like Musk, and everyone wants that sweet, sweet R&D money that governments are handing out. Evs will be in the future, just not the only thing.
Horse back to wagons to ICE to ELectric. Just accept it. Future will be in developing the GRID, renewable energy and storage systems.
@OP still forwards chain emails.
At this point whoever thinks ICE will come back is living in denial.
Just like color TV's, HD TV's, cellphones and cordless drills. Who needs them!
Let me guess, OP still carries a flip phone and knows that wireless will never match the quality of a pair of copper wires running straight to their house, too!
Used EV pricing way high. Dont think no one is buying them. Auction pricing for Lightening and Mach-E used vehicles are the highest.
Ice catching fire
No wonder with the quality now some ford evs will catch fire with their batteries.
Any sensible person would have cancelled their ford ev orders by now