Thread regarding General Motors layoffs

Revisiting Returning to the Office "Collaboration"

This may or may not have something to do with VSP and layoffs, but just an observation. We have been doing the "collaboration" 3 days (2 for some) in the office since February. When I'm there, it seems like there are just a handful of people in my group (8 or so at the most) at any given time. The boss seems to be there every day.
Seems like Tuesday is the day everyone wants to be seen. Most are not doing much and it's pretty blatant. I would say people are doing much less than before March 2020.

I firmly believe that GM knows that people are less productive but they called us back hoping they would lose people. That didn't pan out they way they thought so they go into this: 1. "No layoffs" 2. "Performance Calibrations" 3. "Please take a VSP and find a hobby" 4. Layoffs (likely). But what remains to be seen is whether or not they throw in the towel on forcing the remaining people to "collaborate" in office. I'm kinda doubting it. They really like to lie to us and threaten us with a smile and they never back down on bad decisions (like open seating).

Just my 2 cents. What do you think will happen? Will they abandon the "collaboration" or will they lean in thinking maybe more will quit if they force us back 5 days a week? Are you more or less productive? Do you feel like people are truly collaborating? Do you end up spending more on lunches, gasoline and car repairs? Do you feel like the meetings and the classes are just piling up? Have you been voluntold to do more work yet? Is Bob your uncle?

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@1slf+1lOzMYoW - I don’t believe that is even a question. My naive friend, Companies do not like people working at US wages from home. If labor is a fifth or a tenth of US cost, they love it!!

It’s all about $$$.. Race to bottom.

You know right, Stellantis (FCA) has clearly policy - If an employee in USA resigns, that position is filled with 2 Mexico, Canada or China based Engineers. That still saves them tons of money. It is everywhere.

Do I like it, no. Is it GM only problem, no. This is the cost of globalization.

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Post ID: @2nzt+1lOzMYoW

The article says companies don't like remote work and want to bring everyone back to the office.

So why would they outsource to people half way around the world?

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Post ID: @1slf+1lOzMYoW

This data backups job postings for companies, most now say onsite, a few state hybrid, almost none state remote.

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"These fully remote workers are being slowly asked to return to the office, or being moved offshore," Mr. Bloom said. "U.S. wages are very high so moving fully remote workers to Mexico, Philippines or India can generate huge cost savings."

Warning Will Robinson! Warning!
Be careful what you wish for.

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Post ID: @mxs+1lOzMYoW

After reading that WSJ article below, it's pretty clear that the writing is on the wall.
If they end up laying off 1/4 of the salaried workforce, they are going to absolutely want to put the screws to us. You can't do that when people are sight unseen.
Our hybrid days are numbered. You'll be told, "Take the pay cut, show up 5 days, work free OT - you are lucky to have a job!"

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Post ID: @xig+1lOzMYoW

From the WSJ today:
https://www.wsj.com/articles/work-from-home-era-ends-for-millions-of-americans-8bb75367?mod=hp_lead_pos1

Work-From-Home Era Ends for Millions of Americans

Working remotely is becoming increasingly rare a few years after the pandemic caused millions of Americans to decamp from worksites to their basements and bedrooms.

Some 72.5% of business establishments said their employees teleworked rarely or not at all last year, according to a Labor Department report released this week. That figure climbed from 60.1% in 2021. The survey showed about 21 million more workers on-site full time in 2022, compared with the prior year. An establishment is defined as each business location—such as an individual restaurant in a chain.

The new number is also close to the share of establishments—76.7%—that said they had no employees teleworking before the Covid-19 pandemic, and that were open in February 2020, the Labor Department said. Employers recently have begun pushing harder to get staff to work on-site more often, as recession fears prompt an increased emphasis on worker productivity.

There’s a sense that innovation, creativity and collaboration can suffer when teams are apart,” said Mike Steinitz, senior executive director at Robert Half. A survey by the global recruitment firm found that 92% of managers prefer their teams to work on-site.

“They believe employees are simply more productive in the office,” he said. “They also feel that it’s important for mentoring and training both new and existing employees.”

Several large companies have said they expect their employees to report in person, more often. Walt Disney Co. now pushes for four days a week on-site. Starbucks Corp. has asked office staff to come in more. This month, Meta Platforms Inc. Chief Executive Mark Zuckerberg told employees at the Facebook parent that in-person time helps build relationships and get more done.

“Our hypothesis is that it is still easier to build trust in person and that those relationships help us work more effectively,” he wrote in a letter to employees.

The share of business establishments with hybrid arrangements, where employees split time between home and worksites, decreased in all measured industries in 2022 from 2021, declining 13.4 percentage points across the private sector, according to the Labor Department. A particularly stark drop played out in the finance sector, including banks and brokerages. The share of financial establishments operating hybrid dropped by half, to 22% in 2022 from 44.9% in 2021.

Remote work was particularly rare for service-providing jobs, such as those in retail, restaurants and accommodations. Employment gains in those categories contributed to more employees working on jobsites. Hiring in leisure and hospitality and retail accounted for nearly 30% of the 7.7 million gain in private-sector employment since August 2021.

The Labor Department survey asked about telework, which it defines as an arrangement that allows an employee to work at home, or from another remote location, by using the internet and other digital communications. The survey was conducted in August and September of 2022, while the 2021 survey was administered from July to September of that year.
Scrapping hybrid work meant a wholesale return to the worksite for many businesses—but not all.

Remote work remained fairly common last year in some jobs that traditionally were done in an office. In the information sector, which includes tech and media firms, 67.4% of establishments said their staff worked remotely some or all of the time. In the professional and business sector, which includes law and accounting firms, the share was 49%.

And the share of establishments that were fully remote rose slightly last year, to 11.1% of establishments from 10.3% in 2021, the Labor Department said. In the information industry, that share increased 4.8 percentage points, to 42.2%. Financial activities, professional and business services saw smaller increases. Companies in many of those predominantly white-collar industries offered more flexibility before the pandemic, Mr. Steinitz said.

Research by economists using a different survey—one that measures the share of days worked remotely—suggests that remote work persisted into 2023, though it has shown signs of slipping recently.

In February 2023, 27.7% of total days worked were from home, after holding fairly steady at an average of 30% each month in 2022, according to research by economists Jose Maria Barrero of Instituto Tecnológico Autónomo de México, Stanford’s Nicholas Bloom, and Steven J. Davis of the University of Chicago. The share is down sharply from May 2020, when around 60% of days were remote but still more than five times the rate that prevailed before the pandemic.

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Two factors are driving the slight drop in work-from-home days, Mr. Bloom said. Companies are pushing managers and professionals to return to the office for more days each week, he said. And the number of fully remote workers is shrinking. Mr. Bloom and his colleagues’ survey showed that the percentage of employees working fully on-site reached 60.8% in February, up from 54.6% in November 2021. The declining share of fully remote workers drove more than two-thirds of that shift.

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“These fully remote workers are being slowly asked to return to the office, or being moved offshore,” Mr. Bloom said. “U.S. wages are very high so moving fully remote workers to Mexico, Philippines or India can generate huge cost savings.”

Remote work, however, isn’t likely to entirely disappear.

Some 13% of current job postings are for remote positions, according to staffing firm ManpowerGroup. That is down from 17% in March 2022 but well above the prepandemic level of 4%.

Write to Gwynn Guilford at gwynn.guilford@wsj.com

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Post ID: @eii+1lOzMYoW

Not sure why so many are assuming "ISP". Just call it a layoff.
"Involuntary Severance Package" sounds like HR speak that avoids calling it what it really is: Another Brutal Layoff. There's no "package"!
The modern trend is an email -> turn in your laptop at location xyz, do not pass go. Your badge and ID are instantly shut down.
A small severance with the condition you don't talk or work for a competitor. Slam, bam, thank you ma'am. They have the upper hand and they will use it.

There's more I can say but I'll refrain until the layoffs start.

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Post ID: @odp+1lOzMYoW

We basically had our director yesterday even say in a meeting at the cole building...he knew we had done great the last 3 years getting work done. He said do what you think is best to get your job done. He himself had been there in office to only be in a room by himself in a teams meeting asking himself....why am I here...hard to say how this will all shake out. My own group heard what he said and was like ok not 2 days a week but as you need. Then after he left the visit and room our DGM said you know we have a policy for 2 days a week so make sure we dont take advantage of WFH. What a cluster. I feel sorry for everyone. I'm taking the VSP...it's time..but I can not believe this disfunction is going on...the director was our DGM's bosses boss sr. Manager and his boss. Our DGM was new since fall and tried to say forget what his bosses boss just said... 2 days a week...not good...oh well unreal and sad.

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Post ID: @jpj+1lOzMYoW

After the ISP, the work GM will be giving you will set you free.....

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