Thread regarding 3M layoffs

EMEA Neuss rooftop reduction

3M wants to give up 1 out of 2 buildings in Neuss, Germany. Next to offices, the building contains the canteen, child care and gym. After they refurnished the offices in the pandemic - making a cube farm out of the whole building - not many people returned to these offices. As they realized that real refurbishment is needed in future, they started looking for an investor. Now, the plan is to rent offices in the surrounding and to bisect the site (both buildings need to serve Spinco and Remainco as both buildings have different functions). Giving up real estate instead of investing in it. Sad times.

Simultaneously reducing the location size and loosing the networking momentum which used to be special there. Plus taking the last reasons away not to work 100% remotely. Probably that is the plan, so that they need no buildings at all anymore. Unfortunate for the technical folks as they will also loose the location benefits, but still need to go there. At least until the next restructuring ...

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@2hfy+1oQwIZPX

No, that isn't the plan. Maybe because employees wouldn't move to the other site? From a German perspective, it is not that close.

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@1qsq+1oQwIZPX

Forgot about the Membrana site there, good call. Is there space?

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Post ID: @2hfy+1oQwIZPX

Ask yourself when the last time was 3M Real Estate made a truly smart decision? And then ask if you think the current "leaders" in EWS are capable of true strategic planning that takes into account a sites location, its impact on R&D, manufacturing, supply chain and oh yeah, employee satisfaction? Look no further than the mess in Austin over the last 5+ years as exhibit 973,528 of how to throw good money after bad.

Moni got rid of a leader with vision and fortitude because he couldn't stomach her saying "no" to his office upgrade requests. The next hot shot spent more energy finding out how to purchase the latest Star Wars Lego sets than running EWS and jettisoned it before his coffee got cold. The current leader is happy to swing the massive axe and outsource everything to an IFM. Sure, every metric shows the service quality is worse, but it's an indirect cost not direct so we're winning! Good thing her #2 is an MBB so once that magic LSS math is applied their powerpoint decks will look great. Their pensions continue to grow with every FTE they eliminate.

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Post ID: @1xao+1oQwIZPX

The rented building was given up 4 years ago to save costs. Maybe they will rent it again? The labs will stay with one floor dedicated to spinco. At least that is what has been announced.
Spinco and Remainco look together for a new office building in surrounding of the lab building. Would make sense to look seperately and to move both closer to its plants. Apparently that is not the current plan

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Post ID: @1ctt+1oQwIZPX

Consolidate into Wuppertal site

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Post ID: @1qsq+1oQwIZPX

It has been a while since I've haunted the halls of Neuss, but isn't/wasn't there already a rented 3M medical office building across the street from main HQ?

I can definitely see the problem with the spinoff. I think it is even worse given the lab/tech service spaces on the south half of the main Neuss HQ complex.

Splitting the main complex would be tricky and expensive I would think. They are pretty heavily interconnected if my memory serves. You have the office tower to the north, the lobby/customer/amenities area in the middle, and the labs to the south.

A different question would be, should HC move closer to the HC plant in Kamen? Find office space in Dortmund?

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