I've kinda moved on from the fact that people are getting let go and just started planning for the next phase.
Does anyone know if WARN act will cover this layoff?
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Don't see how this could help us in layoff if you are longer term employee? If we get 12 weeks severance based upon our tenure how would WARN gives us more, is it on top of what you get from Xerox (12 wks from XRX plus a WARN extra time), or just a minimum, that you either get paid time from policy, or paid because of WARN to what ever the State minimum is? Not very clear what this is or how it helps employee getting laid off?
watch this website https://www.warntracker.com/company/xerox
@1qdq+1r3uHTM7 You are correct that notice needs to be provided by either electronic or mail form in the United States to comply withUSA WARN notice laws. Many states laws indicate that electronic form is only acceptable if their is a formal company address for an employee and reasonable expectation the employee will receive it via that communication method- Otherwise; it needs to be sent via standard US mail. A WARN Notice requires formal written notice to local school district senior administration as well as local government officials- USA employment legal advise is to not sign any exit papers immediately- Employers are required to allow time {1~3 weeks } depending on USA state laws- At exit,employer is expected to provide to employee how they end their separation if employee does not sign exit papers on day they are communicated their layoff-
“And it’s jurisdictions, not judications.“
- Karen, you’re still with us! I was getting concerned.
if Xerox does not send written communication on MASS Layoff, then penalty is 2 months pay per the US WARN ACT. If they give notice, don't have to pay. WARN does not impact severance. Most US non union get 2 weeks severance pay. That is most likely why Xerox sent the written email to avoid paying the 2 month penalty if they did not WARN folks.
US much cheaper.
US is easier to get rid of but no way cheaper especially compared to EU
And its jurisdictions, not judications.
US employees are on the higher side of comp and are the easiest and generally less expensive to let go. The 31st has no significance for stock options, mostly because nobody has any. XRX got out of the stock option comp business 25 years ago. Such is the quality of information on this site.
Why they would issue a communication and public statement about a layoff on Jan 3 of 15% of the global workforce - and then other than a few selected folks who were told in early January that their last day was Jan 31 (so they could redeem stock options) - that the rest of us would be waiting to hear something or see some action? My guess this is part of the strategy and would serve as as notice in some judications. Bottom line this is about cutting cost, so if they save an additional 2 months of severance on each US employee that is a big saving. So strange that no one knows anything substantive on dates. Maybe they have not figured it out yet?
1st Q is going to be terrible. So this won't help. Everything and everybody is on hold. We are not just sinking Q1 but maybe the whole year due to reorganization.
Global reduction that also happens in the US. The portion that is in the US is subject to US laws.
Thought I will admit that hearing this will be a global reduction is sort of easing - i still think that the highest earners are located in US compared to other regions so they’ll make more money laying off from US - which is what this is about, MONEY
Why all of the references for the US? This is a global reduction.
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I contacted the email address located on the warn notice page and got a response from them.
WARN@labor.ny.gov
https://dol.ny.gov/warn-notices
You can look for Xerox on there and cross reference to news articles on announcements. Days correlate to the tea
Who did you email inquiring about Xerox? The NY department of labor?
It isn’t sufficient enough, they to inform state officials who lists the WARN notice on a public list of WARN notices for the respective state - this is where it gets confusing.
I sent them an email a couple weeks ago and they said they were working with Xerox currently but had no other information. They said we will find out who is leaving before they publish it on their website.
That being said, I think they need to inform people of the impending layoffs 60 days prior in writing.
They may have satisfied that requirement by that email that was sent out and the documents/faq's they are providing.
60 days from the date of the email/announcement is end of this month, I believe.
I wonder if that was sufficient enough to satisfy WARN.
No doubt in my mind they will definitely trigger the WARN requirements for Rochester area.
That’s a lie, the most recent WARN act notice in NY was December for 2017 - if you check NY’s Warn page. Warn guarantees you two months of pay - or 2 months of severance in lieu of having the notice day being the same day as termination day.
If the size of the layoff triggers a certain number of employees by State then the State law for WARN comes into play. In most recent layoffs employees did not get the benefits of WARN as they kept the total number of people impacted for that State below the WARN threshold. If I recall correctly the last time WARN was provided in Rochester area was about 15 years ago with a bigger layoff- and people got the extra benefits with WARN. I think in Rochester we are going to see much larger numbers with Union, engineering, and support staff impacted. So if you are impacted the WARN benefit is better as it gives you some extra weeks of pay (on top of the Xerox policy) and keeps your insurance longer than the Xerox policy of 2 weeks.
The WARN act just requires companies to give 60 days notice if the layoffs they will be doing in a state meet certain criteria. It's just a notification rule, nothing more, and it has zero to do with severance.
I think you are stupid. Severance is 3 to 4 months.
"Why does everyone keep asking about the WARN Act? Has zero impact on what is happening."
Are you stupid? How would an act that allows 60 days guaranteed pay & insurance after a layoff not impact what is happening? Because it most certainly does
Why does everyone keep asking about the WARN Act? Has zero impact on what is happening.