I heard that T and U are closing and those folks are moving into A, and thus, the A cafeteria is reopening.
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Offices are becoming like public transportation - a thing of the past, unable to stand without subsidy. TTA is rolling proof. As is the tanked commercial real estate market.
The appearance of the SAS campus buildings will change WAY more in the next 20 years than it has in the previous 20 years. Things fall way faster than they rise. Gravity wins eventually.
Building H surely must smell very musty by now due to uninhabited decay.
Your negativity is ki-ling my mojo, man.
@4wwi+1rRyvs3M I honestly don’t get you.. first simp the burn.
But you be you.
“Not A - R or S”
It makes a lot of sense to move people into R, as it’s largely vacant (it was only about 60% full even pre-pandemic) and already has an open café.
Not A - R or S
"Leave SAS and follow your dreams.”
It’s not a good time for this advice. The tech job market is flooded with folks laid off from the FAANGs. Qualified people can’t find work without a pay cut, and many can’t find work at all.
It’s particularly tough for those over 50 with mortgages and children who need college tuition. Leaving SAS risks hurting those they love.
Some of these people moan, whine, and vent. Of course they do; they’re frustrated by problems they can’t fix.
And there's no harm in that. It helps them to vent their frustrations, and it doesn’t hurt us.
Ahhhh!! Your criticism hurts so badly! It burns, it burns!
@3sch+1rRyvs3M Don’t get a job as an fbi profiler. You missed really badly. Every single thing was wrong.
I don’t even know what simp means. And don’t plan on wasting my time familiarising myself with your slang.
Internet tough guy. Keyboard warrior. Same type of person that calls people "simps".
Who cares if there is building shuffling and consolidation. It makes complete sense given less people going to the office and the need to clean up the books.
I’d be more concerned if they weren’t consolidating buildings to make better financial sense, meanwhile laying people off to cut costs.
@1yat
Yes, tu-d-in-a-box is the thing near Bldg I / daycare. I don't know who commissioned it.
"Rumor and gossip is what SAS runs on. These same sorts of discussions probably happened each day at the lunch tables in R."
Yah, that's a problem at SAS. We receive a company-wide notification when a parking lot is going to be closed for resurfacing, but nothing at all when 24 people get shown the door. That we hear first from WRAL Techwire, and only if someone who knows something leaked something, after the fact, or through the rumor mill.
Even before the layoffs began in earnest (before the first VRBP), and they were limited to a few people here and there, we only heard about them because news that security showed up to escort someone out of the building travels fast, or we heard the shouting in the parking lot from a distance ("Get your hands off of me!").
I find it incredulous that so many SAS apologists here don't realize that SAS created the problem they're complaining about, typified by comments like: "Unless you were in the meeting, you don't know what was discussed." This is true, but irrelevant. It's easier to blame the victim, and certainly because they can't place the blame where it really belongs. It's normal for an employee to want to know their job and ability to pay their mortgage is not in danger, and that when layoffs happen (because they are sometimes necessary) that they are impersonal, and for business reasons. But that's not the case at SAS.
Not only does senior management conceal the existence and occurrence of layoffs (it was a slow burn until 18 - 24 months ago), but they actively lie about the reason those people were laid off, then have cake at a party. Senior management selectively targets people to "settle scores", and punish people trying to outlast toxic managers by sending them down into the basement with a can of ro--h spray to make sure they g-e-t t-h-e p-o-i-n-t that they're not wanted.
It certainly contributes to the comments, and types of comments, that I read here. I can't blame people for wanting to talk it out or have their say. That's something they didn't get to do at the time, maybe.
Rumor and gossip is what SAS runs on. These same sorts of discussions probably happened each day at the lunch tables in R.
"I do and say the exact same things in the real world as I do here under the anonymous cr-p."
Me too!
"Leave SAS and follow your dreams."
I did!
no one has made a T&A wisecrack? or has the cold hearted HR intervened and got such a post taken down. has one of the bright sparks still at SAS trained a language model on all the old emails (even ex-employees) sent, so they can predict who writes all the sh1tty posts?
@1new+1rRyvs3M That made less than zero sense. I have the courage of my convictions. I do and say the exact same things in the real world as I do here under the anonymous cr-p.
It is the folks on here who bi--h and moan while happily collecting a paycheck that need to shed the hypocrite nonsense and have the courage of there convictions.
Leave SAS and follow your dreams.
@1kwy+1rRyvs3M I have no idea what happened in those conversations. And unless you were on the calls or in the room neither do you. Unless you treat gossip and rumor as facts in which case you got this.
You know they're not going to give you your "good boy points" unless you post under your own name, right? You have to post under your own name, not anonymously, for them to add those to your employee personnel file at SAS. You can't just point to any random post here at TheLayoff.com and claim that its yours. The devs at TheLayoff provided a text box for "Your name or pseudonym" for you to use, below. Remember to include your SAS employee number. Don't worry, they already have your IP address. And don't forget the courage of your convictions!
Broadcom did just that, didn't they? They turned and ran.
@1cyy+1rRyvs3M You are not entitled to the balance sheet. If you need that then go start a company or work for a publicly traded company.
A private company is not for you. Or just march into Dr Gs office and tell him you want to see the balance sheet.
The information on this site is interesting. This is the only way we see the company is making moves beyond just saying we are preparing to think about getting ready to approach ipo readiness.
All anyone wants at this point, is a straight story. Show us the balance sheet. Stories of perpetual Utopia and unlimited success become suspect after awhile.
I want to hear about the t-urd in a box sculpture! Is it one of Jim's, or one from an off-the books child or grandchild? Or is it that thing near the former daycare? I used to call that one "crushed car" or "Han Solo in carbonite.
@egp
90% of what is said on this site would not be ok with "anyone high up" - this particular topic would be among the least of their concerns. Chill.
Wonder how they'd feel about discussion of the tu-d-in-a-box sculpture at HQ - maybe I should make a post about that.
Did anyone ever lease the buildings they put on the market as available? The ones toward the main entrance gate?
@xok+1rRyvs3M Go tell anyone high up that you feel posting about internal building usage publicly is ok and see what happens.
See how fare game they think it is.
Didn’t think so.
Liiiighten up Francis..
Businesses everywhere are assessing real estate footprint at this point. Covid changed everything and allowed more flexibility to work from home. Consolidating offices is a smart move, especially if more employees have the opportunity to go fully remote. There aren't as many people coming into the office as there were pre-pandemic.
SAS is one of the few tech companies that offers private offices for employees. Others have you working in open space cubes or "home bases" based on team. And not every SAS office location offers individual offices either. You must be located at headquarters.
The last two posters are wrong. The buildings on campus are fair game because they are part of the value proposition of why anyone would seek to work at SAS today. Said amenities, including private offices are also a big reason why longer-term employees may want to stay.
@ahs+1rRyvs3M Ignore the downvotes. You are right. They are wrong.
They are lucky it is anonymous.
Why is this being discussed on layoffs.com? What does this have to do with anything? Openly discussing every move of a company on public sites? Ridiculous.
Agree, J was awesome before it fell apart. A is the newest building and the biggest and mostly empty. I think instead of renovate its rental time ..or destruction time. I think they are past the age of depreciation.
I still think that J was the best location (when F was open).
Sorry, maybe that should have been in a 'what was your most loved building' thread...
Is A that new building they built a handful of years ago?
I wonder if T and U are ready for renovation?