Thread regarding ExxonMobil Corp. layoffs

To those defending ExxonMobil passionately here, why?

I have been reading posts here for quite some time now, and I always find some hard-core EM defenders that dismiss people here as winners, boomers that are well pass their prime time, underperformers that deserve their ranking, overpaid, obsolete, etc, etc.

I understand those who go public about their unconditional sympathy for EM on LinkedIn or Yammer, there is an upside for doing so (obsequence is rewarded with a better ranking).

But those who defend the company passionately anonymously, why do you do it?? What's your upside??

Do you really believe EM is a great company that deserves your passionate anonymous advocacy??

If that is the case, please convince me: do your honesty have positive sentiments towards EM? What is it that you love about it that deserves your time and effort?

by
| 1932 views | | 18 replies (last September 10, 2022) | Reply
Post ID: @OP+1iBRPucb

18 replies (most recent on top)

@wij+1iBRPucb

The Nobel winner will tell you the truth. The EM management probably did everything to call the fundamental findings useless and didn't promote and support him, his work, or his career. He left the company disappointed. Now leeches like yourself are trying to associate themselves and trying to take the credit.

Having a good salary in the past brought good talent to ExxonMobil but it trashes real talent and promotes worst individuals as managers ND this has been a systematic problem with the company for a long while.

by
| | Reply
Post ID: @3cqf+1iBRPucb

@3mzg+1iBRPucb
Good observation. It is funny how after he won the Nobel prize, ExxonMobil, specially the Clinton site and its pathetic manager Syrup went on full force to cash on and get credit for themselves in a sort of deceiving manner. It was probably the similar managers were the guys who threw the original finding saying it is not useful for the company.

The Nobel winner most probably hates anything EM and doesn't want to remind its toxic attitude. He had nothing to do with these mo--ns and kept quiet about EM association all throughout.

by
| | Reply
Post ID: @3efo+1iBRPucb

The Nobel recipient, Whittingham, left the company (EMRE) after only 16 years (to work at Schlumberger). Guess we couldn't do enough to retain the best and brightest back then either.

by
| | Reply
Post ID: @3mzg+1iBRPucb

@wij+1iBRPucb Hi Vijay. I didn't know you read this posts.

by
| | Reply
Post ID: @1ojk+1iBRPucb

Yes, definitely must be new.

That might explains the astonishing degree of cognitive dissonance and delusion.

Do you seriously believe that "changing culture is difficult, and needs a critical mass of like minded people".

What kind of blindness do you suffer from?

A change of culture in Exxon requires a sweeping tsunami of immediate terminations for at least 90% of supervisors, hi-pos, their sponsors, senior executives, VPs, the CEO, and anybody who holds in their job role the "leader", 'principal", "consultant" or "advisor" label, and, in addition, the erradication of the cancer of the corporation, the hated and useless performance review and development process.

by
| | Reply
Post ID: @1tli+1iBRPucb

@1kju+1iBRPucb You must be new. Experienced hires are like red haired step children. Technically part of the family but not loved like those who were nursed as babies on tiger milk.

by
| | Reply
Post ID: @1rrb+1iBRPucb

To those living in the past. Wake up and smell the present. Glory days are gone.

How much do you wanna make a bet I can throw a football over them mountains? Well, if coach woulda put me in the fourth quarter, we’d have been state champions. No doubt. No doubt in my mind. You better believe things had been different. I’d have gone pro in a heartbeat. I’d be making millions of dollars and living in a big ol’ mansion somewhere, soaking it up in a hot tub with my soul mate.

by
| | Reply
Post ID: @1xdc+1iBRPucb

@1pes

I dont think the legacy is beyond redemption. Changing culture is difficult, and needs a critical mass of like minded people. A lot of posters here are incredibly talented and bogged by the culture around them.

The cognitive dissonance is correct. With me, I think it is in believing that the pervasive toxicity too will change. That the personalities causing it will leave, and it may not be for the worst.

Maybe if we get to work together rather than compete, you'd might think differently about the narcissistic and cognitive traits. I'd be happy to learn from you, regardless. :)

by
| | Reply
Post ID: @1nkd+1iBRPucb

The ExxonMobil that produced a Nobel laureate is dead now. That spirit, if it ever existed, is GONE.

As a scientist at ExxonMobil you have today ZERO probability of adding to any legacy.

Your scientific skills are monumentally irrelevant. Your supervisor is incapable of telling the difference between publishing your work in "Nature", or publishing it in a non-peered reviewed SPE journal, and your ranking is guaranteed to go PIP if you insist in engaging in world class scientific research.

Of all the rationalizations you could possibly come up with, this one (adding to the nobel laureate legacy and believing you could become a CEO in its pursuit) is completely delusional.

You are beyond cognitive dissonance. You are an attention seeking narcissist that craves for acknowledgement and recognition. For you, posting here is like taking a selfie:

Look at me!!!!!!! Me me me me me, the nobel laureate proud legacy defender and aspiring CEO culture-changer dreamer, who equates becoming a CEO to doing something meaningful!!!!!

by
| | Reply
Post ID: @1pes+1iBRPucb

Maybe those that genuinely defend XOM are folks that have experienced working for OFS hells like Halliburton or Liberty, and know how lucky and privileged they are for just being on the other side of the fence (operator’s side)....

by
| | Reply
Post ID: @1kju+1iBRPucb

As a Layoff board, this does have some rigid defenders of the pipping and benefit-swindling swine.
But tho defenders are likely paid a bit of bonus, don't you suspect?
Maybe it's a full-time job - maybe for different companies. XOM and CVX essentially the same after all.

The real thing to be scared of: Occupy Wallstreet. not heard alot about lately.

by
| | Reply
Post ID: @xla+1iBRPucb

I skew favorably in my EM responses here. We've produced a Nobel laureate, and as a scientist, adding to that legacy means a lot, personally.

There is politics and mismanagement, no doubt. But maybe, if I get to be CEO or anything meaningful, I could change the culture more positively. That's how I rationalize it. Probably d-mb, huh?

by
| | Reply
Post ID: @wij+1iBRPucb

They have brown nosed so long and breathed in enough brown stuff fumes to have shtt for brains now. That has to be the only explanation for defending this company.

by
| | Reply
Post ID: @rwq+1iBRPucb

I can relate to the cognitive dissonance argument.

I found myself becoming someone I didn't like, not for doing shady things, but because what I was becoming was eroding my core identity.

I tried hard to talk myself into accepting this as a transactional relationship (the money was good enough, etc), into not giving a fk about management rhetoric, about the performance review, about not caring if my project was relevant or meaningful or top-quality, into becoming a diplomatic ghost with nothing too negative or too positive for my supervisor to think of me to secure a G or VG standing in the ranking so I can sail smoothly towards retirement and collect my pension. I was only one performance review away of becoming NRE.

But I couldn't do it anymore.

It just came to the point I started hating myself for becoming such a complacent, soulless, sterile, passionless, cynical, transactional zombie, whose only motivation at work is to disengage enough so it doesn't affect my mood until retirement.

Cognitive dissonance didn't work on me, the more I tried to rationalize it, the more I hated myself.

I resigned 6 months ago.

by
| | Reply
Post ID: @sox+1iBRPucb

I don’t understand it either. All I can say is those defending the company remind me of a child in a dysfunctional family, They are so imbedded in the toxicity, they either cannot see the dysfunction or they feel they must defend their normal.

I’ve heard of people quitting jobs because they did not like who they were becoming in their position. I fully understand that concept now. I know of 3 coworkers who left because they were unwilling to play the “back stabbing, throw people under the bus” game to stay safe in ranking. It was changing them.

I know of a couple supervisors who left because of what went down in 2020. They saw what the directives dumped on them from DW and HR were doing to their teams and themselves. I understand that feeling.

If you choose to stay and you are a good person, you may find yourself doing some shady things you thought you’d never do in order to keep your job. Before you know it, just to live with yourself, you have to do some creative mind games to trick yourself and justify the person you’ve become. Defending the company is one of those things. It’s called cognitive dissonance and it’s an incredibly powerful coping mechanism.

by
| | Reply
Post ID: @gas+1iBRPucb

When Hi---r invaded France, plenty of people supported the Vichy regime. XOM's current middle management suck-ups are exactly the same.

by
| | Reply
Post ID: @xyr+1iBRPucb

Actually, I don’t care about EM beyond the fact that they paid me a nice salary and I only have to work 6 months per year for it; which allows me to hold a second non-O&G job on days off. The money flow my way is good and has been for +25 years which is what makes me really happy (plus family).

If the EM $ dries up, for what ever reason, I will take my retirement and move on.

Beyond that EM dos not love me and I don’t love them. I’m in it for the money.

Even Stephen I’d say.

by
| | Reply
Post ID: @zfw+1iBRPucb

I know there are many supervisors that read this. I don't think they are defending the company, but that they are defending themselves as they feel attacked by the comments here.

It's an "ego preservation" reaction.

The biggest the ego, the biggest the interpretation of any dissenting voice as attack, and the bigger the defensive reaction. ExxonMobil is great in selecting and breeding this type of individuals for managerial roles.

by
| | Reply
Post ID: @cop+1iBRPucb

Post a reply

: