Altering how we work while under an emergency pandemic should be temporary, like the pandemic. No, not at 3M, our strategy is to redefine how we work forever. No need to think this through too hard, I mean what could go wrong? Let’s also redefine how we do business, you know, totally change 3M’s vision along with eliminating our greatest assets, our employees. Outsourcing our business is not a strategy, it’s an operational failure. Oh, and DEI is reverse racism no matter how you slice it. New CEO will have to act in defiance to MR to immediately reverse course and right this ship that is quickly becoming the titanic of the manufacturing world.
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No wonder 3M is sinking fast. While you guys want to sit around attacking DEI Mike Roman is eating your lunch. PFAS and other lawsuits continue. Competitors are winning share. But yes, let's talk about the five diverse people in the company. Not to mention that 90% of DEI efforts were for women. But sure, that's what caused the stock to sink and people to lose jobs. Sure Jan.
Ha, Sad in St. Paul mentions getting management pressure to hire a candidate from the DEI pool. Meanwhile, I notice in the diversity report on 3M's website that "management positions" have a lower "target percentage" of representation for those same groups. Why is that exactly...besides hypocrisy?
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I don’t know you and I absolutely would not comment on you as a person. I will, however state (based on your words) that this is huge an example of what some call Literary Elite. You feel that just because you’ve received formal training on this topic you know how it’s applied in the real world. This would be like someone in the military having only experience in an administrative role thinking they can command a combat unit based on a classroom study and controlled training maneuvers. Yes, these days too many people are educated beyond their intelligence and real world applications.
My manager put intense pressure on me to hire a DEI candidate. It was a horrible experience for me. I did believe in DEI until this happened.
I wonder how many of you have actually recruited. I have, at 3M for that matter.
No, publications are not of opinions. Are based in research. You should know this.
Also know that hiring based on race, age and such is Illegal. Recruiters, like myself in a past life, take courses and trainings to ensure unbiased selection. Furthermore, resumes are reviewed before even meeting a potential candidate.
So, hate all you want on DEI. That shows 2 things. 1) you are voicing opinions and not facts. 2) you are, sadly, part of the problem.
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Recruiters are the most diverse I've seen. They omit the talented, educated, and experienced and go for everything but.
Older employees are the primary target in job eliminations. It will always be that way as it is engrained into 3M's culture since the GE infection. 3M lost it's age discrimination class action lawsuit. 7,000+ employees terminated. Déjà vu.
3M faces years of scrutiny over age bias (2011)
https://www.startribune.com/3m-faces-years-of-scrutiny-over-age-bias/128487038/
@1zfk+1rKmkntH : DEI should be about hiring the best candidate while ignoring filters based on race, creed etc. It should NOT be filtering out candidates before deciding if their qualified or the best candidate.
What ever happened to that Age Diversity Group? 🤔 They had great presentations, engaged Yammer group and the right message that was desperately needed.
The academic literature suggests that age diversity and diversity of beliefs have a positive impact on organizational performance. Ethnic diversity is not significant. Sounds like you haven't done your research.
"This is not an opinion, is backed by many many publications." - publications of opinions?
This argument is much simpler than it is made to be. The problem with DEI is the approach of hiring "talent" on the basis of God-given attributes, not on the basis of skills/behaviors/etc. With DEI, we're really telling everyone that they are nothing more than their appearance.
The idea that DEI had a time and a place is wildly miss-informed. A little research (which I have done as I recruited for 3M for a few years) shows that diverse organizations perform better. Period. This is not an opinion, is backed by many many publications.
If you are upset about DEI efforts across corporate America you should really look at your own values first.
The only strategy that exists at 3M is to enable JG15+ to line their pockets before bankruptcy. Layoffs, offshoring, cost cutting, getting rid of "rooftops". That's all they and the Kearney consultants can come up with.
The idea that WYW is "unfair" is really just "punish white collar workers because plant workers exist."
What that's going to lead to is offshoring manufacturing jobs.
I believe that DEI had a place years ago but time and people have changed. I personally think the best person should get the job period. I do not believe that just because you are old or DEI should get you a job.
Why is DEI in your rant? Everything leads back to it huh? Even WYW which is standard across most of corporate America.... But that's DEI? Stop it.
@OP+1rKmkntH "DEI is racism." Do you guys where white hoods in your building? Sure, don't overdo it, but is the issue a little more nuanced than your 1950s klannish dismissal? Just curious.
Let's be realistic! The support that 3M provides as far as "training" can be done by AI. Realistically no value to the end user, especially that these so called trainings by the 3M personel do not come with any hard copy certs.
I have been remote for years now. It never felt right to me but I figured why not. I did attempt to work onsite one time. I was alone in 225 and it felt like I was in some kind of post apocalyptic zombie movie, never again.
I work from home and can see your points. I wanted to go back to office for normalcy and found the culture is dead, desks empty, and any feeling of normalcy at corporate feels lost forever. I went back to working from home, but if we could get some semblance of 3M culture in office again, I’m all for it. I find a large percentage of workers are now in GSCs, so I fear the corporate feel and culture was also outsourced. Hoping we could have a return to office and return of non-standardized work to the US or respective countries they belong in
The unfairness of WYW is breathtaking. The fact that the company doesn’t even recognize it is an even greater concern. Remote workers should have their salaries adjusted promptly to bring fairness to 3M. Not asking for the world here, just some common sense.