Just saying, causing 10k employees to commute 2 hours a day is just adding gas to climate change. A lot of virtue signaling on Oxys part without backing up what they say.
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To the last poster. Did the company actually hire you?
Certainly not for your writing skills.
@rbfa+1fu4uXGD you are entirely wrong. Wfh does not require what you state and only 5% is tangible and not by most of the workforce. That 5٪ can then visit the office and it's by only the very few that need to and not for all of there time rented to the company. It's mostly100٪ intangible work not at all requing in office attendance if your intelligent enough to operate a PC on your own with out IT holding your hand every step of the way.
Most of the work processes that do well under WFH are not really group oriented. These processes also involve very tangible tasks that can be easily defined. These are very different tasks from the tasks required to develop an oil field.
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I also found a place that's offering the same. It's fully work from home you can even live in a different state and only if you need or want to you can go into the office but it's not required.
Over the last 24 months, I’ve hired 3 employees from Oxy’s competitors giving them a very nice salary bump. You don’t know what you’re talking about.
I left Oxy in 2021 and I’m in tech. My work hours are now 9-5 (bye bye 55 hour weeks), all benefits paid are paid for, I have unlimited PTO, quarterly bonuses, it’s fully remote, and I got a nice pay bump. I have friends in the tech space that echo my experience. Sorry, Oxy isn’t competitive in the slightest.
The WFH whiners would produce just as much greenhouse gas sitting on their sofas eating cheetos as they would commuting.
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My group had a huge boost in collaboration that maintained up to today as soon as we started working at home via Teams. But for years in person before the pandemic it was never this great.
It is completely reasonable that we come back into the office for three days a week. We still get to WFH on Monday and Fridays.
OK, I admitted. I’m not real sure what this thread is about. Is it climate change or WFH?
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You are in a group with professional attitudes. Too bad not all people are like this.
My group is doing great, maybe because we have a good boss. I think most of us like seeing each other and everyone has a good attitude. We had good collaboration in the past, and I expect and hope we will again going forward. I guess every group is different.
@2ngt+1fu4uXGD - He is right in my group as well. We come in and shut our doors to be able to unmask and stay to ourselves. When we do meet with each other it is in our offices with mask on usually. If all that keeps up there really is not a reason to go back the office. Either open up fully or let people work from home. Walking around wearing a mask should be an individual choice and not one Oxy mandates on people, especially since the CDC just lightened up.
Oxy is a huge virtue signaler no doubt, but at least they aren’t as bad as the European majors like BP and Shell.
Dude, we’ve been back to the office twice since wfh. There is no exaggeration, at least not on my floor.
@2wbl+1fu4uXGD, do you think you might, maybe, a little bit, be exaggerating? Also do you know what “literally” means?
All anyone does in the office is shut their doors and have meetings on teams. It’s literally the exact same as wfh. So d-mb and pointless.
A micromanager will be a micromanager whether working from home or at the office. Its not about that. People do engage more with others in-person and thats better for innovation, not when you pretend to be in a Teams meeting while “multi-tasking” watching TV etc. Do you even know a 60% of Google’s workforce will have a similar hybrid schedule than what we are being offerred? Last time I checked they are a tech business.
@1foq+1fu4uXGD, Nobody can tell you what to do or how many hours to work. However, if the job you agreed to do requires a certain number of hours and for you to do as you are directed, you can voluntarily comply or find another job that allows you to work less and at your own direction, if you can. You comply with the requirements of the job, the job doesn’t comply with your requirements. Didn’t they teach you that in school?
Whoever is complaining that field employees have to come in to the office needs to get over it. You have to go to the field to do your job, the office employees do not need to go to the office to do theirs. It’s such an apples to oranges comparison.
Field employees are highly compensated for what they do. You mad bro?
You don’t like the office? Come on out to the field. We have been in our “office” the whole time during everything. Even with the wage cuts that were deep enough for us hands to have to budget even though you don’t think we know how to do math. I have been making sure your wages, including the raise and bonus you’re about to get(without ever putting on boots or even touching a damn hammer), is secure. Shut up already. Enjoy you 2 car garage. Enjoy your time with your kids. I hope you enjoyed just sitting in your amazing house. Time to get to work.
Maybe you anti office people can hope for another covid wave.
Bottom line - tech salaries, climate change, fossil fuel, clean energy - none of that really matters to you, they’re just arguments. You want to WFH. It’s not a solution to anything except your dreams and desires. It’s what you want, and dog-on-it, you deserve it.
There will be no mass exodus from the company. The entire IT department is not going to leave. You WILL return to the office. Really, the sooner you can accept that, the happier you will wind up being. You did it before, you can do it again.
So you like micromanaging your kids rather than giving them space.
@1qss I don’t care if you go in 5 days a week. Seriously don’t care. Just stop trying to tell the rest of us what to do with our time. Many of us have kids and want to spend time with them rather than just working 55 hours a week until we die:
I’m 35 and a female and if that’s how the 32 year old female feels below. I couldn’t disagree with you more.
Actually, I’m 32 and female. Not the boomer male who you seem to envy and hate so much.
Yep, the kind of old men that don’t understand how Microsoft teams work. Retire and do everyone a huge favor. Y’all are overpaid as is and don’t add any incremental value.
No one said wfh will save oil and gas. But it would make it competitive in the working world during its ongoing demise as the world adopts clean energy. It’s inevitable. Y’all are the kind of old men who ask their kids to help them access the hotspot since you don’t understand how modern technology works.
No, iqlx is funny as sh(t. It’s so true. Other industries “like tech” pay more, but WFH will keep us. The world is against fossil fuels, but WFH will save us. I hate being social, working with me team and my manager, but WFH will make it all better. No one wants to be in this industry and we’re all going to work for tech, but WFH will keep us. LMFAO. Just go somewhere else if you want to WFH 5 days per week.
Poster below. You are obnoxious. Your wife probably wants you to return to the office so she can get a break from you.
So we have “climate change, activist board takeovers and a souring public opinion domestically”. Add to that “European Energy Companies like BP and Shell are moving towards renewables”. Sounds like it’s over. Is there any solution to all of this gloom and doom for the industry??? Wait for it…. WORK FROM HOME! You guys are so predictable.
Is anyone else going into the office on Monday just to set things up for the big return?
@dmx. Production is up from 10 years ago bc we are looking at $100 oil and a bo-m (potentially for the last time). It’s called making hay while the sun still shines and who could blame companies like oxy for doing this, but with the way European Energy Companies like BP and Shell are moving towards renewables and away from investment in oil and gas to appease rich shareholders, there is definitely not a bright future for this industry. I question the intelligence of college grads studying petroleum engineering/geology when they won’t be able to make a career out of this dying profession. The rest of us 10-20 year experience employees are just hoping to get another 10-15 years out of the profession that are likely left.
Dude, get your head out of the sand. Do you really think the US is going to produce oil in 10 years? Not very much that’s for sure. Sure, oil itself is not going away in the next 30 years, but within this country we have climate change, activist board takeovers and a souring public opinion domestically on the industry (which will get worse when oil goes to $150 after the Ukraine crisis) there are probably 10 good years left in this industry in the United States. I work in IT and many of my colleagues have left for other industries (that not only pay better than oil and gas) but also allow greater flexibility. I can tell you are some try hard middle level manager, you don’t like that you are losing the narrative on covid/climate change. Luckily, things will continue to change that will benefit everyone who continues to work just by supply/demand
"Not that this industry has much of a future". US crude production is way up compared to 10 years ago. Estimates for 2022 and 2023 show even higher production. Yes, they'll be shutting the doors soon, so get your personal items when you return to the office. Oh, and my favorite is "Everyone in IT is leaving". Do you guys hear how crazy you sound?
@bof+1fu4uXGD - Are you going to quit Tuesday? Or come in and make everyone's workday miserable? Hopefully you can leave your bitterness in the car. Instead of complaining do something about it and leave. Talk is cheap.
Try spreading an old paper map or a bunch of well logs out on the table for three people to discuss. Maybe it can be done digitally but it is more effective to all stand in the same room.
People who think they need to be in the same building to conduct business in an increasing connected world via the internet need to retire like the dinosaurs they are. The more industries/companies that adopt permanent wfh will just cause more attrition for oil and gas who are overly conservative and resistant to change. Not that this industry has much of a future with less college grads entering the field.