as they never acquired new skills other than office politicking and backstabbing, which has been plaguing the company and affecting truly talented ppl.
Finally time has come :)
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i have been at cisco for 29yrs and counting. 51yrs old w/male happily married with 3 kids.
And on my way up (G14 now) I’ve continually earned high IPFs and accumulated huge amounts of RSUs.
You can su-k me.
I'd say my overall aggregate contribution to Cisco during my time was about 0%.
In software this would make you above average. There is a reason the vast majority of development dollars were going to bug fixing and it's because most people who were "doing something" were checking in really broken code. Getting them to do nothing would improve the quality metrics and free up the useful to develop new features.
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You will enjoy till your current girl friend finds another boy friend.
This is only partially true. I got laid off from Cisco a few years ago after nearly two decades with the company. However I never indulged in politicking and backstabbing; being completely lazy and unproductive was more my jam.
I'd say my overall aggregate contribution to Cisco during my time was about 0%. Yet they kept giving me free money every two weeks to sleepwalk through the office like Santo & Johnny.
Office politics is not only stupid, it's counterproductive. That BS adds stress to your life, not working hard prolongs it. No wrinkles or grey hairs to be found anywhere on me. In fact, everywhere I go people tell me my face is so pretty and youthful it's a shame I wasn't born a girl.
JNPR also is going to break the records.
So, dramatically lower operating margins than Cisco, dramatically lower profit margins than Cisco, revenues less than 10% of Cisco's, less than 5% of the total cash of Cisco, more than twice the debt/equity of Cisco, more than twice the short percentage of float of Cisco and all this after only more than 27 years. Cisco's six month chart is rising, Juniper's is falling.
Cisco should be out of business any day now! /s
I’m very comfortable where I am and what I contribute to Cisco.
I worked with people who were promoted after costing the company tens of millions of dollars without adding any value to offset that and they felt the same as you. This doesn't mean you aren't useful, but unto itself the assertion proves nothing.
Of course.....it will all happen tomorrow on thev19th.........
I can easily tell how toxic, sick, and plagued this company is, just by looking at overwhelming number of negative click numbers to this post. The content of this post is pretty normal and in the right mind.
Anyway, I really do hope those with the company for over 20 years will be LR's soon! That's the only way the company can become normal and survive.
You know … I’m very comfortable where I am and what I contribute to Cisco. You’re the one with his pa-ties in a bunch.
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JNPR also is going to break the records. No one is fool here to check the metrics and admire you . Other companies I know moved far a head as they hire right people, not the one like you who will stick their jobs like oil, fu-k others and get the job done and grow themselves. STFU
And yet we just performed to the best CPF in 20 years? Something is working there.
STFU and get out.
Agree with OP. What you guys have done for past 20+ years if you are staying at cisco.
Someone told that they are constantly educating themselves and upto date with market.
But that is not enough. How much innovation internally happening? Innovate by acquisitions, that is not economical. You guys made Arista/PANW/Juniper/ZScalar most successful and their employees to be millionairres
Cisco could have created AWS on its own with all the infra it got. It all those who are at 50s and 60s just safe guarding their titles before retirement and playing cheap policits. Bullsh-t and Rubbish.
People don't even make up stuff well anymore here.
felt like a Quora troll
Your post also reveals ageism.
I'm an old guy and I would have tossed them back then when Cisco could still attract talent to fix the damage they were doing then.
For years back then half the company was adding process_may_suspend() for CPUHOGs while the other half was removing those calls due to the resulting crashes. By the 2010s people still couldn't use mutexes correctly. Many data structures couldn't be torn down deterministically for decades. All this stuff was well understood before Cisco's founders walked off with other people's work from Stanford in the 1980s so even the oldest still at Cisco should have already known it.
Every company has "a few bad apples" but if they aren't outright laid off they're pushed to the side. Cisco promotes them which is why they were spending the vast majority of their development budget on bug fixing when I left. Multiyear overruns, even on programs scheduled for a single month were common. The staff Cisco was able to keep is simply not capable of doing development which is why so much of Cisco is acquired.
if OP thinks just getting rid of the over 50 set will fix anything you're more clueless than some of the people you're complaining about. Cisco's rotten culture is embedded from the top to the bottom and even if it could be fixed no one capable of taking on such a task would waste their career trying to do it.
If you're capable of better, either accept Cisco won't change and move on, or give your fate to them and end up on the street one day.
I don’t believe anything on this website anymore to be honest. I’m still not a fan of Cisco, but most of the posts here are total 🗑️.
OP: you should be embarrassed that you even took the time to create such a post. It's total rubbish and a waste of everyone's time, because you are 100% lying. The burden of proof is on YOU, and you have zero evidence.
Your post also reveals ageism. Did you recently get schooled by someone with more experience/time-in-company, and now you're just boo-hooing about it?
that's simply wrong. Most folks I know that have been here for years have spent a lot of time educating themselves on various technologies as needed to be extremely successful and many are disappointed with some of the "recent" new hires' lack of technical knowledge and overall sales skills...there's a few bad apples across all ages/tenures and to slam a group of folks is bigotry by the way..