Thread regarding ExxonMobil Corp. layoffs

Worth repeating - 5 year old assessment of the EM "system"

This is from an old Glassdoor review in 2017 - so dated in several respects.
Amazing how much fall-off from just a few years ago.
But it still has much relevance and insight.
Long but succinct.

  • LAY OFFS: Because the company is SO profitable, they rarely lay people off. Essentially, unless you REALLY F*#$ up, you will have a high paying job for life. That can be a blessing and a curse, however. If you drop to the bottom of the rankings (see below), you will be a glorified paper pusher in a mind numbing role for the remainder of your career. Because your skill set deteriorates with the role, and you get used to the salary/vacation/perks, you have the “golden handcuffs” and cannot really leave the company as you'll probably take a pay cut. There are a ton of people I ran across that knew the EXACT date they were going to retire….which was like 5 years away (or more) and we're pushing paper to just get by until that time.
  • PENSION: The profitability of the company also allows for a decent pension and benefits. You essentially are eligible for a pension after 5 years with the company. If you complete 15 years and are older than 55, you can retire and receive a pension. The pension is enough (in most cases) to provide for you and your spouse the remainder of your days. Most people retire (at the latest) by 60. Pension is calculated accordingly: 80% of your pension at 55 and increased by 5% every year until you’re fully vested at 60. Average pension came to about 2/3 your salary. You can receive your pension as a lumpsum or as an annuity.

The drawbacks?

  • FORCED RANKING: You will be force ranked by your manager. What does this mean? you will be ranked from 1 - ? against all of your peers. The components of ranking are nebulous, at best. As with any large company, most of the energy you spend is around politics (and not necessarily working). And, as with any large blue chip company, careerism is ever present. Your peers are incentivized to cut your throat for incremental gains in ranking (which result in title and salary). Political capital can evaporate in an instant and you can be caught in the cross-hairs of the ranking system through no fault of your own. This is important, as the higher your rank, the higher the opportunity to move around the company, get raises, get career advances, etc. Those in the bottom 1/3 are rarely given raises. Rankings also correlate with age. Specifically, the older you are, the lower your rankings generally are.
  • CAREER:Your career is also not your own. You are expected to be a cog in the machine that is XOM. A shiny, well compensated, comfortable cog - but a cog, nonetheless. If you are on the management track (executive) track, you will know by your late 30s. If you haven’t been tapped in the shoulder by the time you are 40, you are not advancing in your career and you will be moved laterally for the remainder of your time at the company. Being moved to middle management is almost worse, as you will be making a he-l of a lot of money (up to $250K) and not really doing much at all! Try recreating that on the outside.
  • CAREER TRAJECTORY: Very, very rare and difficult and rare to move up. You have less than a 0.25% chance to make executive (yes, I did say a QUARTER of one percent). At every iteration of a management career trajectory, the stakes are higher and higher and competition is more cutthroat. Remember, one good ranking session could be the difference in millions over the life of a career. One bad ranking session, drops you YEARS below in salary and career. It extremely difficult to recover from a boss who drops you 20+ points in rankings. XOM HR Guidance says that a boss can only drop you 15 points a session, however, bosses have autonomy and can act with impunity during rankings. I have heard of cases where people go from top 10% to bottom in one rank session. Essentially, these men and women on the executive track have only worked at Exxon their whole lives. They wont be able to derive the same clout or salary outside the company. As a result, they will do ANYTHING to advance. I have heard some disturbing stories that I wont share in this forum about career advancement.
  • ENGINEERS ONLY: if you don’t have an engineering degree, you are at a significant disadvantage and will be treated as a second class citizen during your tenure. Chances of moving up are limited, if you even get hired. Petroleum and Chemical are prized. Mechanical is second. Civil is somewhere around third. Also, most people come to work there right out of school. Most people who have been recruited within the past 5 years have a 4.0 GPA from a state school that has a reputation for Tech. MIT, Virginia Tech, Colorado School of Mines are big places Exxon recruits from. Exxon rarely recruits from the Ivy’s or Stanford. This comment is specific to the Business Lines. Recently, XOM has recruited people into IT and other support functions as contractors then employees. This employee has a limited scope and, thus, limited trajectory.

Your “experienced hire” moniker will be branded on you like a scarlet letter.

  • SALARY RANGES: Employees fall into “Classification Level” or CL.

This is specific to college educated work force. Admin staff are lower in salary and this chart is not meant to outline their respective salaries.
22 or 23: entry level - $110K to $135K
23 to 25: mid range - $135 - $160K
26 to 27: Senior range - $160 - $180K
28 to 29: Middle Management: $180 - $250K
30: Executive - $300 - $400K (division leaders)
31 and up lots of $$$ (senior division leaders)
*This is not compensation for Corporation Executives in Dallas - just rank and file in Houston.
**97% - 98% only make it to CL 26 - 27 during their careers
Bonuses are give to the top 20% of CL 26 and higher. Generally, it is given in the form of RSU's (Restricted Stock Units) maturing over a 3 year period starting from around $25K to the equivalent of your annual salary if you are lucky enough to be a CL 30.

Good luck!

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Post ID: @OP+1cHhnnQn

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Great info

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Post ID: @2vhb+1cHhnnQn

@1cuf They seem accurate to me. My salary is $160k and I’m YEE 10 with CL26 with ranking outstanding (hired at CL25 four years ago).

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Post ID: @1tur+1cHhnnQn

All of that was BEFORE they broke the “contract”, and you can see clearly the nasty problems that existed, balanced by some positives. Now all the positives are gone while all the problems are still there, amplified by some mind-boggling, catastrophic ideas such as removing the limit to how much you can drop in ranking each year, big fat PIP every year to turn everybody into contractors and blowing up the trust in normal, unforced retirement. Even a company in top shape would have trouble surviving in such conditions, let alone a company that lost half of its value in less than a decade and has no clear path or even plan to recovery.

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Post ID: @1ykn+1cHhnnQn

Salary figures by CL are way off (too low).

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Post ID: @1cuf+1cHhnnQn

Well everyone knows that review doesn’t apply anymore they are laying off all the time.

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Post ID: @1jqq+1cHhnnQn

That’s because if you make it to a senior management or executive level at xom they own you. You have no life whatsoever outside of xom and that is a sad life. By the time you can reap the benefits of the money you’ve made your too old, worn down (probably divorced a few times) and alone to enjoy it.

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Post ID: @1its+1cHhnnQn

The only TRULY happy people I’ve met at EM tend to be in the lower CL ranges with significant hobbies or lives OUTSIDE of the company. They see the company as a paycheck and nothing more. That includes senior executives that are making millions a year, honestly a lot of them seem miserable.

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Post ID: @xdu+1cHhnnQn

What a succinct assessment around the limited opportunity at ExxonMobil 5 years before the collapse.

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Post ID: @mlt+1cHhnnQn

Been at XOM about a decade. This is the most info on CL salary ranges that I’ve ever seen.

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Post ID: @tqp+1cHhnnQn

@vuy+1cHhnnQn Wise!

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Post ID: @zgh+1cHhnnQn

Never seen a more true review. I was 5 YoE ranked VG starting to enter that "paper pushing" role the review described. I got an offer for significant boost in compensation at a smaller firm but almost turned it down because just like the review said I was starting to get comfortable with the salary/vacation/perks. Then I looked around at the depressing other VG people that never made it far in the ranks, just showing up, clocking in/out and quickly accepted the offer.

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Post ID: @vuy+1cHhnnQn

I’ll add one tidbit here: there is very
significant overlap in the salary bands between CL levels. A high performing CL x person could be earning more than a mid-performing CL x+1.

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Post ID: @nio+1cHhnnQn

Thanks. This is vg summary of many aspects.
Great help for my own planning.

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