Thread regarding Ford layoffs

Layoffs today both contractors and salaried

US Ford Credit IT groups laid off. Email to FC Indian team received from CTO confirming US layoffs today. Entire teams of US counterparts both contractors and salaried let go.

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@ 3vyr you’re on to something. 20 here, 15 there…. DF said it last year in his year-end message. Now we know what he meant when he said there will not be an “all clear” communication.

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Post ID: @5uhh+1llWDVIL

Ford Motor next as GM just announced executive cuts immediately today!

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Post ID: @5dtr+1llWDVIL

Trickles don’t make the news. Many smalls cuts is the new mode of operation. It desensitizes the employees to cuts. And prevents public demonstrations when Gretchen gives F $ for possibly fewer future jobs than they cut in 2022 and will again in 2023. And the kicker being those jobs pay 1/3 the salary than the ones they cut, and of course most of the future jobs wont materialize.

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Post ID: @3vyr+1llWDVIL

Are those numbers official? Seems like an awfully small number.

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Post ID: @3ihv+1llWDVIL

There were 17 salaried employees and 31 (if I recall correctly) agency employees let go.

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Post ID: @2okj+1llWDVIL

FC and FMCC are both a mess and the future layoffs are coming for both. Looks like by the end of March.

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Post ID: @2rfj+1llWDVIL

Do we know how many were let go? I am guessing this is the beginning of layoffs this year. Who will it be next?

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Post ID: @1hqr+1llWDVIL

Many of the FC “blowhards” moved to FordPass, FordPro, Ford Cloud Engineering and continual to have a large discrepancies between their PowerPoints presentations and their actual value and work output.
Likely the reason there are perceived more F f-ups than FC is just # of employees. Percentage-wise likely equivalent volume of f-ups. Had a good view from infrastructure side. We saw the impact of all and which groups had competent staff and well put together implementations. We know all the dirty secrets and which people ALWAYS have cluster projects, and which people quietly implement solid code and projects. It nearly is always the case that the more LL hoopla the worse the project quality. And if JF and DF are talking about the project guaranteed it is vapor-ware or total f-up.

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Post ID: @1mht+1llWDVIL

@1dks I dont disagree with you, but for every cluster flip at Credit (like the compass fiasco), I could name a half dozen at the motor company (SAP implementation, declining technology replacement, forced ASP rewrites, AGILE implementation, Peoplesoft, Everest, F@ST, etc. etc. etc.). My impression was that we had more blow hards and that Credit was a little less f'd up than the motor company.

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Post ID: @1pxi+1llWDVIL

The new CTO is a smooth talker, nothing more. There are plenty of qualified LL3s in Ford IT that could have been promoted and would do better. JF wanted an “outside” experience.

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Post ID: @1dri+1llWDVIL

LOL @1rwm also worked for both. Ford Credit IT only believes they are more efficient. Historically there were Ford Credit blowhards that loudly proclaimed how superior Ford Credit IT was - it was all blow.
One example they spun up a multi-year, multi-million dollar project even though the Ford IT experts demonstrated there was a better simple 100K, 1 month project that would permanently solve the issue. Ford Credit spun up multiple teams to do tons of unnecessary coding and data structure changes, all of which continue as carrying costs to this day. The LL6s suppressed the truth from LL5 upwards to build their empires. Then when evidence provided was to LL5 and LL4 about the waste they continued the cover up.

There is so much cross-pollination between Ford and Ford Credit IT, that one could not expect the culture of empire building to not exist in both IT organizations.

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Post ID: @1dks+1llWDVIL

@1apy Ford IT and FMCC IT are completely different and independent from each other. I've worked in both and I can tell you from experience that Credit is a lot more efficient. Do they need their own CTO? probably not, but I think they might need to maintain their own structure for legal reasons.

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Post ID: @1rwm+1llWDVIL

'The great shift from Dearborn to cheaper labor in India, Brazil and Mexico continues'

It's been going great so far

'super easy barely an inconvenience'

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Post ID: @1tak+1llWDVIL

"If the company has any scruples"

😂 😆 😂

Are you serious?

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Post ID: @1ycd+1llWDVIL

How many CTO’s does Ford have? I can think of 4. Good question on if all/any of them earn their keep. 3 are not in michigan

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Post ID: @1ogl+1llWDVIL

The email came from the CTO of Ford Credit. Does Ford Credit really need a CTO? I wonder what other redundant executive and management roles are there. And another new exec that doesn't live in Detroit Metro area according to LinkedIn. I guess their people must RTO but they don't need to.

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Post ID: @1apy+1llWDVIL

Nordstrom pipelines were blown up. So is Europe still buying gas from Russia?

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Post ID: @awv+1llWDVIL

Lol. India and China funding Russia for Ukraine War? Grow up guys. Europe is still buying Gas from Russia. So stop doing business with Europe as well. Glad that you are not the CEO of this company. This is place already screwed up beyond repair. Don’t bring geopolitics into the business. You will end up shutting the doors.

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Post ID: @mll+1llWDVIL

Ford has sold out the USA worker and they and their agency suppliers suck up to these ba----ds! Next stop bankruptcy and no bailout! I'll buy a BMW next time!

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Post ID: @ryh+1llWDVIL

If the company has any scruples it should stop doing business in both China and India. Both voted against the UN Ukrainian War resolution and are the largest global consumers of Russian oil, directly supporting Putin. India has a long history of buying and obtaining licenses to manufacture Russian arms.

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Post ID: @scl+1llWDVIL

It’s coming in March @zkm
There have been some LLx departures this week.

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Post ID: @gag+1llWDVIL

The great shift from Dearborn to cheaper labor in India, Brazil and Mexico continues.

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Post ID: @hym+1llWDVIL

Any news on Ford IT?

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Post ID: @zkm+1llWDVIL

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