For those of you who weren't around during the 2009 layoffs, here's some observations: 1) You'll be ok if you have an H1-B. 2) The odds are heavily against you if you are a Principal Engineer 1/2 or an architect, and to a lesser extent if you are a Senior Engineer 2 (regardless of past performance). As others have suggested below, knocking off those with large salaries is definitely in play. 3) There will be some dead wood ejected, but unfortunately, some in management will view this as an opportunity to settle some scores. 4) Check your employee handbook: they had (in 2009) the right to pay out 50% on unspent PTO. Good luck to you all.
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"Click" - the sound you hear after you've learned you have survived the current round of layoff Russian roulette.
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clique
: a small group of people who spend time together and who are not friendly to other people
click
: to cause (something) to make a short, sharp sound
: to make a short, sharp sound : to make a click
no i mean negotiating me entry terms. i don't want to be grouped with mediocre developers and have my talent be lost in the crowd.
You mean like you are negotiating now with them about the upcoming layoffs? You have absolutely no negotiating power whatsoever, regardless of how well you've performed over the years. Your job status could be at the whim of some new VP who doesn't like the way you look.
They will do these layoffs and no one will know what criteria was used for who was let go because there probably won't be any really good criteria or process for who stays and who goes.
Unless you are in a senior management position, the only negotiating you get to do is when you are being hired and even then corporate HR policies and practices dictate the range of most decisions made there as well.
You are only fooling yourself if you think you have any negotiating power with the company. If you really want individual negotiating power, then become a consultant and negotiate your work on a contract basis.
tech union? to bring all of us to the lowest common denominator? no thanks... i'll take my chances negotiating my terms for myself!
These are the times that it would be nice to work for a tech union. The company wouldn't be able to let you go just because you make too much money or were on someone in management's sh*t list. There would actually be a process spelled out that considered time spent at the company, performance reviews, etc.
look at th number of reelly talentd people who left for competors like nutanix, vmware, already, ctitrx will be stupid to eject any more talnt. pretty sure there will be no savng because they will simply rehire 500 or more within the 2015.
FYI for those in California - I believe that they must pay out 100% on accrued PTO.
It is really disheartening to see this repeated again especially after all of the hiring they've been doing lately.
yep. the old "click" lives on. re. point #1 :P
re. point #3. repeat of Rizwan's approach to layoffs in 2009
Good luck to you too