Thread regarding IBM layoffs

Hire all the 'Milleniums' and fire everyone else. Forgive their student loans cause they don't want to pay and were incapable of determining the value of the education they were contracting to receive. Remove all incentive to work by raising minimum wage to a living wage. Since when did older people start at a living wage. My first apartment was basically a room in a flop house...and I loved it. Went to and paid for college from there. Will I be getting a refund on my tuition with interest? Will I need to pay for healthcare for all the kiddies now that I worked for my own for 45 years? This country is in trouble and the kids are brainwashed by talentless teachers, and politicians. It ain't easy, stop with the sorry weak spineless handout mentality. Become an adult. Take charge. The government is now in the business of legalizing d--gs so you can get high, get a big problem, then you will want the government to fix you. You're too broken to fix.

Just another countless example of Corporate America treating its workforce like a disposable commodities. Not just an IBM thing, Silicon Valley companies are even worse. Look at average ages at Google and Facebook. So much for enforcing laws or California being such a liberal state. Shame on you California for setting such a terrible example for rest of USA and hypocritical laws never enforced.

I think IBM is hiring millennial's because they are sadly taking lower pay. Just because you are old doesn't mean you are no longer useful to IBM, it's the fact that you are costing them more than a younger worker and the business is cash-poor and possibly headed for bankruptcy post next recession.

Older generations are laying off older generations here folks. It s--ks, I don't like it, and I wish IBM would do 100% more for their employees during RA's (reassignment, retraining, other-job-finding services, etc.). But, please do not stereotype an enter generation on either side just because one angry person made some offensive comments. We're all on the same side! It doesn't make sense to be angry at innocent people just looking for work to support their family, regardless of what age they are.

I pray that all affected will be able to find what they need, quickly, to support themselves and their families. Please, update your LinkedIn, update your resume - don't put dates on anything unnecessary (i.e. when you graduated college) get rid of any/all work experiences more than 15 years ago, as it's none of their business how old you are and that might clue them and give an unfair bias. It isn't right that recruiters consider that, so don't give them the chance.

can you baby boomers redirect your frustration at IBM instead of millennial. You are all unnecessarily bitter and act like you weren't young before

How many dog years is thousands of millenniums?

To all the losers whining about the older workers - no doubt children of the 80s or millennial types..... you are the same people whose mommy and daddy escort you to job interviews , are playing video games all day long, instagramming, facebooking, tweeting, etc, etc along with yout phone being attached at the butt 24/7. You have no clue what a loyal work ethic is because your job was never outsourced to a company like IBM. Your company decides to outsource your butt to IBM after years of loyal service and it's career s--c-de . You have zero leverage and they make all the rules. And when the rules don't work to IBM's favor they change them to do so. (i.e post Rosenberg vs IBM pay remix strategy ),

Outsourcing has destroyed the IT industry because of "it looks good on paper" greed. And you wonder why the experienced workers who can run rings around you ( i.e. us old folks) are p*ssed off? Think about it and get a life outside your parent's basement.

At the Austin location, I'm hearing muttering about some young hires being RA'd too, if that makes you feel better.

I have to say in my location most of the dead weight is with a lot the young people and spouses that don't do any real work. Positions were created for them that were not on the GOM. They're also the ones put into team lead and manager postion's without interviewing other qualified candidates.

Toxic is an understatement. Any company operating like this is bound to fail in due time.

Just a paycheck

You know, I think IBM is better off without people who make such basic errors as referring to "millenniums".

Honestly as a long time employee I have to say that most of the folks who are here whining about young folks taking their jobs have been "retired on the job" for years. It's about time IBM cut the overpaid dead weight. Hopefully you folks whining because you are being replaced with younger folks take a moment and realize. You are older than everyone else ANYONE replacing you will be younger than you. Retire stop being greedy and let someone who will actually work take over. Oh and FYI... unlike you lazy whiners we don't get heathcare and a pension when IBM lets us go. We will never get your 5 weeks of PTO or 6 months of no questions asked short term disability. No we don't remember when you had access to a free country club, because we never have seen any of this because you lazy good for nothings sat around with a thumb up your a-- while IBM circled the drain.

"pay them their pension at 30% less than salary", where did you get that number. My pension will be about 75% less than my salary.

I dont understand one thing.

1) If you are replaced with someone your age, you are fine with it.

2) But if you are replaced with someone half your age, and at half the salary, you think its ageism even though the business stands to make more money with that move, and could possibly hire another worker. If the business is going to suffer more than benefit, they will not do it. If they do, they will run the business into the ground, and so be it. You are not an owner, why should you have a say in it?

I think all companies should have a retirement age of say 62 ???

BULLC-ap, some of us are the only ones left that know how to do things!

because the do nothing but talk a good game president is a joke

I think all companies should have a retirement age of say 62 and also reduce medicare to 62. This way younger people will have more opportunity and older people do not have to health care benefit and can also experience that phase of life.

You can thank Harvard Business for this new 'expense your way to profits' model. They even adopted this in my school district. Retire out the high wage tenured folks, pay them their pension at 30% less than salary and hire in the inexperienced at a third of the wages they were paying the seasoned teachers. Even an incentive to retire is a one-time payout. Ageism is alive and well in America.