Thread regarding General Motors layoffs

https://www.freep.com/story/money/cars/general-motors/2019/06/03/gm-ford-layoffs-contract-workers/1206527001/

Finally a voice for is contract workers. The uaw thinks we had a low skill set when in fact it is the total opposite. Some of this information in the article is completely inaccurate, they talk all about protection of their high paying jobs and dignity! Many of us contractors had good skills and if we didn't then GM most certainly would not have had us working for them period. Long ago the big three saw an opportunity to follow a cost savings plan and that entails reduction of the uaw, many of us contract folks should have been hired long ago. So it's ok for some groups to have protection and job movement rights but not other's? Sounds like discrimination to me, what happened to when you work hard with a company you where rewarded? The salaried folks and the uaw received bonuses and profit sharing during this whole restructuring plan now didn't they? It's who you know and who likes you, some managers like to play games with people's lives for their ego and some are fair and square. Why not hire and retain good employees regardles of salaried, uaw or contract? Toyota doesn't have these issues to deal with and the big three have always known that. Why not hire a good employee into a uaw position or a salired position if the person is deserving of it? Winning with integrity is Mary's Moto she's a damn lier and knows the game better than anyone.

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Contract houses are a waste of time and a headache for the manager and the employee. GM has a very generous holiday schedule through out the year and not all of those days are paid for a contract person, they get furlough days on MLK days for example. I had to negotiate allot and was damn lucky to have a GM manager that was decent enough to work with me, all of my healthcare was blue Cross blue shield and the contract house provided it along with Delta dental. GM pays the contract house a specific precentage and all contract houses use allegis pay system, I always views it as a bunch of extra wasted time using contract houses and clearly it has finally dawned on GM to eliminate them, I just wish I could have been hired first last summer before they did it. They should consider bringing a pension back, I mean help people that help you and work at the company, everyone is out for themselves and it's pathetic really. If you are contract GM will find every excuse imaginable not to hire you, managers like that control and ego boost, they will blame HR or a director but the truth is it affect their budget and ultimately their bonus, being contract and apparently a blue badge salaried head carries high risk of unemployment. Seek a professional union and push for pensions otherwise this will continue forever.

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@ZnaCiUD-1srs

Nope. Contractors themselves are definitely not paid more than regular employees when taking into account the benefits. It may be that the contracting house bill GM or the other OEM more than what an equivalent salaried employees. But that definitely does not filter down to the wages that the contractors earn.

That being said, there are definitely times when it would have been better if jobs had been advertisd as a contract gig. Especially all those staffing houses that have problems attracting qualified applicants and use the lure of a full-time salary and benefits (health insurance, 401k) to hire people from their current jobs only to terminate them a year later when a project is completed.

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Post ID: @3dkt+ZnaCiUD

No.

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Post ID: @1oes+ZnaCiUD

Considering this thread is about contract people, have any of them returned or been called back to GM for work?

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Post ID: @1uxi+ZnaCiUD

Lier, I know plenty of new hires that are doing very well.

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Post ID: @1thj+ZnaCiUD

New college hires have benefits, but they're paid much less than experienced employees, which is why GM prefers them.

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Post ID: @1ekw+ZnaCiUD

Every July and December I would have to collect unemployment for those two weeks of shut down, salaried people did not or the uaw. New college hires make good pay and are not contract, they have full benefits and start with three paid weeks of vacation.

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Post ID: @1psl+ZnaCiUD

Contractors, H1B visa people, and New College Hires.

All cheap labor.

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Post ID: @1gki+ZnaCiUD

Contractors make less than permanent employees and get no benefits.

If they take a week off to go on vacation, not only does it cost them the usual vacation expenses, but they don't get paid for that week. Losing a week's pay is a lot of money to anyone no matter how much you're getting paid.

Every contractor hopes to become permanent, and the company dangles that possibility in front of them sometimes for years.

Like the other posting said, it's all about getting workers as cheaply as possible.

Every big company does this.

Half of Google's workers are contractors.

And no, they don't pay them more than the permanent employees,, either.

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Post ID: @1eoq+ZnaCiUD

ZnaCiUD-1srs

Contractors get paid better than employees? That is an absolute lie.

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Post ID: @1sny+ZnaCiUD

Contractors always go first.

Contractors get paid better than employees.

Part of the pay premium is due to the higher risk of layoffs.

I am sorry and I am not justifying it, just wanted to point this out. As a long time contractor, this employment arraignment has both pros and cons.

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Post ID: @1srs+ZnaCiUD

The big issue is times are not tough, Barra cut all of is when times are good and the economy is doing well!? But hey we have to take precautions is the excuse. And now they want to make skilled trades a contract position! Utter lies from this CEO and her CFO absolute lies.

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Post ID: @dhb+ZnaCiUD

I guess the all mighty uaw are the privileged elite? Not even salary people have that kind of security. The union needs a restructuring to give good hard working people a chance and that chance isn't available it would seem to anyone except friends and relatives or someone's r----ded nephew. Apparently the uaw is better than you and me.

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Post ID: @ehg+ZnaCiUD

Dont expect fairness from any company.

Their goal is to get workers as cheaply as possible and maximize their profit.

Winning with Integrity is just a sad joke.

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