Thread regarding Xerox Corp. layoffs

For those converted to HCL, keep this article in mind

https://www.siliconindia.com/shownews/American-tech-grads-are-unemployable-HCL-CEO-nid-58497-cid-3.html

It was making the rounds in Xerox when they send 1/2 of engineering overseas. It gives you a look into the mindset of management in HCL.

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I'm one of the block of development engineers "rebadged" to HCL in 2011 and so have a partial view of what goes on.

Xerox demands that costs are reduced and so HCL puts lower paid less experienced developers on the project. As in many environments these less experienced people don't really class as engineers as they don't know enough to know what they don't know. Programmers maybe. Like many "new" software people their communication skills "need improving" ands the catch is that they think they understand English language.

Then to keep costs down HCL regularly changes who is on the project to keep the wage bill down and "knowledge transfer" is partial at best. Predictable and foreseeable. Probably would not matter where the outsourcing was.

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Two points:

1) Of course the CEO of a company that practices offshoring is going to make a statement like this. Then U.S. executives will read it and believe it.

2) A U.S. Graduate of an engineering school is not the same as a typical "engineer" hired by HCL. There are engineers in India that are just as good as their U.S. counterparts, but HCL doesn't hire them

HCL succeeds not because its engineers are "better" than U.S. engineers. But because an outsourcing relationship with KPIs and clear objectives is a way to eliminate poor management in a U.S. company. And failing that, at least it is cheaper.

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Even though that article is 10 years old it's still true today. HCL THINKS they employ the best and the brightest. Those of us who have had to work with their employees know otherwise. I often wonder how much better we could be if we had avoided offshoring altogether?

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