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IBM and going forward

Does IBM management understand that its future depend on how it performs in the cloud computing and how it manages its workforce/talent?

I see an issue where IBM will need to offer large discounts to customers in a bid to retain market share. To be fair, all companies competing in the cloud sector will need to offer more discounts. Amazon will do this to maintain its market share. However, IBM is more incentivized to offer more discounts to gain market share and accelerate growth, which is waning....

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Google doesn't have to buy IBM, they simply hire away IBM's top talent. Has been going on for 15+ years.

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Google has certainly tried to enter into the “Enterprise” market for over 10 years. It has never happened. Eric Schmidt (ex CEO of Google) has publicly stated his goal was to get into the Enterprise. Google was the semi-finalist for the bid on Redhat. (28 billion). IBM was actually more aggressive in the final bid Would Google consider a run at IBM to combine. I would give the odds at close to even, given certain assumptions. Right now IBM is in the process of “rightsizing” (getting rid of low margin services businesses and overlapping SW/middleware). IBM is building an Enterprise, cloud go to market strategy which no one else but perhaps Oracle offers. Redhat only compliments that while also allowing margins to be made on their LINUX services. Once IBM cleans themselves up, then there is value to be mined. Remember IBM is a cash cow! Google wants entry into the Enterprise which IBM has in spades. Google wants to grow their cloud, which makes IBM an attractive target as IBM is building a “niche” cloud vs Amazon and Microsoft. All of the low Intel and SW fruit has been taken by Amazon and Microsoft, so to grow cloud means finding something new. Google already pays IBM for a large portion of their IP (P9). Google wanted Redhat. IBM has a pile of IP that can be licensed for at least 15years. IBM owning Redhat doesn’t sweeten the pot yet, as IBM issued 20 billion to finalize the transaction, but IBM is in the process of cleaning that up (no stock buy backs and more trimming of heads). Finally would the govt allow the merger? Google and IBM have almost zero overlap. The govt would be hard pressed to say no.

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Google would now benefit to buy IBM. They get Red Hat as a prize along with all the IBM Enterprise customers that Google lacks... Now, the regulators may never approve such a merger/acquisition!

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Post ID: @4meg+ZXhT8UD

IBM being solely a B2B model k--led them. Nobody in the business world trusts IBM.

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Post ID: @1gvv+ZXhT8UD

Dead in 10 years or less. IBM will be purchased and split up. Sinking ship. Laying off the talent, hiring dolts. IBM is destined to fail.

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Post ID: @1xxk+ZXhT8UD

We did Watson right but the angle was wrong. Amazon, Google and MSFT approached it from a consumer perspective - we approached it from a large enterprise management perspective. They were able to build up the food chain, from the consumer to Enterprise, we are unable to drill down to the consumer (nor we want to) - this leaves our tech less developed and sophisticated and makes us lag in everything.

We should have gone the consumer route (Oracle made the same mistake), but all is 20/20 in hindsight

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