Wouldn't be surprised if Uniti also filed for Chapter 11 to 'restructure' if they continue to sink. But they have better outlook than WINMQ will when they sneak out of Chapter 11
https://seekingalpha.com/article/4250587-uniti-group-ongoing-concern?mod=mw_quote_news
"It’s so much cheaper to repair fiber than to abandon it."
WIN has to allocate funds to fix the fiber - and you can guess lately they are having fun with 'allocating' funds for anything besides the executive pay.
“Older fiber such as DSF does not meet requirements for newer DWDM systems. Aerial fibers are notorious for failing early. Over the years spans will have multiple fiber cuts degrade and become useless and strands are labeled as unusable.”
I understand about DWDM and older fiber designs on long routes. Even then, I’m not sure nonlinear optical affects are a big deal on shorter big city links
As for aerial fiber, if folks don’t trim trees, it has problems. (We regularly trim trees on our 40 mile internal aerial fiber network - it’s held up great for 20 years)
I don’t understand abandoning fiber as unusable — why not fix it? Fusion splices are so low loss that you could have 20 repair splices without affecting performance.
It’s so much cheaper to repair fiber than to abandon it.
Are they just being fatalistic? Lazy? Or am I missing something?
Fiber is not copper.
thieves will be thieves.
"It was a slimy give away of WIndstream assets and the people that prospered from this deal (Gundermans, Thomas) need to be scrutinized to the fullest due to the harm this scheme has caused!"
The courts and other entities will eventually uncover this.
Older fiber such as DSF does not meet requirements for newer DWDM systems. Aerial fibers are notorious for failing early. Over the years spans will have multiple fiber cuts degrade and become useless and strands are labeled as unusable.
Lastly, UNIT/Windstream sham is a triple Net Lease; Under this arrangement, Windstream pays for maintenance, taxes, insurance, and any upgrade costs. If I was in charge this would be one area I would be looking to cut costs and why the UNIT / Windstream deal needs to be renegotiated
It was a slimy give away of WIndstream assets and the people that prospered from this deal (Gundermans, Thomas) need to be scrutinized to the fullest due to the harm this scheme has caused!
Have you googled it
I posted this earlier:
"I'm curious. I thought fiber cable pretty much last for ever as long as something doesn't gnaw on it or cut it. What's wrong with this cable?"
I got some general answers. I'm interested in specifics if anyone has any.
I've worked with outside plant fiber cable off and on for 30+ years. The loose tube cable we have where I work (we're a big Windstream customer with 40+ miles of our own fiber internally between facilities) is up to 20 years old with no problems (other than rodents)
I'm very interested in the specifics of any cable problems (other than external factors like rats and squirrels). As in the cable deteriorating all by itself. What kind of problems if any have folks seen? Any particular vendor.
Thanks
Windstream has frequent outages bc of rodents eating the fiber.
Fiber can degrade like copper or coaxial. It's all about how your OSP was deployed and how much effort you put into maintaining it. Windstream was neither of the above. However what makes fiber assets and copper assets more valuable than the media in the ground is the easements that they hold. Those easements are owned along with the property by Uniti.
Regarding life expectancy of cable, nothing lasts forever. It's more about the jacket material and exposure to the environment, not the glass necessarily.
Gunderman bros and TT, you guys belong in prison, but see you in hell you crooks. you can't take it with you, you scamming thieves.
You obviously don't know a think about fiber. It doesn't wear out. All the telecom companies are using that same fiber they put in 30yrs ago. Now the equipment on the ends maybe their issue, it's not the fiber itself..
"I can wait to see UNIT try to sell the old c-appy fiber that Windstream uses to another entity. The fiber is near its EOL, is not the proper type for modern high capacity systems and often is IRUs or joint owned."
I'm curious. I thought fiber cable pretty much last for ever as long as something doesn't gnaw on it or cut it. What's wrong with this cable?
I can wait to see UNIT try to sell the old c-appy fiber that Windstream uses to another entity. The fiber is near its EOL, is not the proper type for modern high capacity systems and often is IRUs or joint owned. Those thinking WIN needs UNIT more than UNI needs WIN are simply wrong and do not understand the market or the technology.
Some of comments on these Seeking Alpha pieces are as useful as the articles themselves. There haven't been many posted yet for this one but it'll be worth checking back in a day.
Here are other recent articles on Uniti:
https://seekingalpha.com/symbol/UNIT
Folks are saying that March 26 is the last day (statute of limitations) under Delaware state law that someone can sue to reverse the Uniti spinoff as a "fraudulent conveyance" and try to get it reversed.