Global is done, it’s over friends. Every single aspect of what we do is being centralized and therefore eliminated. Today it was finance and admin. Tomorrow it’s HR/IT/Supply Chain (all warehouse jobs)/Purchasing/Help Desk/Marketing- I’m not guessing, it’s fact. I’m in the know.
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HCL didn't guarantee '9-18 months of employment' - your facts are wrong. Typical sales person....spewing nonsensical inaccuracies.
People WERE laid off yesterday. GDG/CPD lost a third of the team. Both Xerox regulars and contractors were sent home.
For those of you still here that have been "offered" HCL re-badging? Yeah, OK. That's gonna work out for ya. They're gonna send your jobs to India. Just wait.
So the obvious is that HCL is F***job to most. Most will be canned once they have a good idea of how to do our jobs.
Question I have is what if your one of two kept xerox in a department of ten, and the other eight are now HCL? Should we have the sense of security and ride this train out or start looking to prevent getting rail roaded later on.
@YahlgdV-zlu someone who already has those departments... like HP.
sales rep.... your disappointed in my comments because many of your co-workers have real decisions to make. Are you serious??? All of my co-workers have real decisions to make. I have real decisions to make. My family and all of them and their families are impacted. This is not a joke. It’s not my opinions. ITS WHAT IS HAPPENING. If you have a VP or Pres that you trust, pull them aside in private and if they are honest, which mine was, they will confirm what I shared 100%. BTW- I work at a large core.
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What you call negative, I call facing reality.
Being tenured, which doesn't mean what you think it means, you should see the problem we face. For anyone new in admin departments, they would love to have such longevity. This is now capped to 18 months.
The only guarantee is we get is no severence, no right to collect unemployment and the absolute guarantee of being told kids and b---s---!
They made it very clear to us there read no guarantee of a job even out 18 months.
I will never understand why people think truth telling is negative. If what OP says pans out, how is that negative? People, getting re-badged to HCL is NOT a good thing, long-term. Yes, for the next ? - 18 months, it will be OK. Maybe. But take a quick min. to Google and you'll see that the Xerox/HCL relationship has resulted in layoffs before. Think about it - their end game is not to keep you. For those of us who have been with our Cores for 10+ years, and as my friend who was in the HCL group today said, "I'd planned on retiring from here!", it's frustrating, to say the least. In fact, it's beyond frustrating.
So this isn't being negative. It's being realistic. Getting re-badged to HCL is not a good thing. It buys you some time, but no one knows how much. I'd call it "temporary work" instead of job security.
And while no one got laid off TODAY, 1) people HAVE been getting laid off. I can 100% confirm this. We lost two in one of our locations. And I know other positions have been eliminated in other Cores. And 2), people WILL get laid off in the very near future. I'm not "in the know", but it seems pretty obvious more cuts are coming.
Sales and service have not been impacted for a reason. They cannot function without them. They will not lay off sales or service. No way. So, I'd hardly call getting re-badged to an Indian-based company that's been known to make cuts before a "luxury".
Neither actually. Tenured Sales Rep with friends and secondly colleagues in each department. This is why I ask you tone down your negative comments as it is contagious and meant for in person conversations, not to poison every other reader.
While I will never ask as to why you are so negative. However, HCL guaranteed 9-18 months employment, same benefits, same pay. My core did not have such a negative reaction as yours did evidently.
It is funny I am replying to a website named, "the layoff". Nobody got "laid off', rather "rebadged to an employer guaranteeing employees have 9-18 month job security.
No sales or service employee of Xerox, GIS/XBS, etc.. has that same luxury.
I would be interested to hear your thoughts
And I guess we'll know soon enough of the OP is telling the truth. More details would help (hint, hint, OP), but most things on this site have panned out...
If "GIS/XBS is the most attractive part of XRX" then why are they gutting it? Who the hell is going to want to stay at this company with all their support, marketing, billing, HR, warehouse gone? Health insurance is garbage. There's no reason to stay at Xerox anymore. The Cores are no longer the Cores. Most of us are family and the sales reps don't want to stay at a place that's being gutted. They're not that stupid. We've already lost some of our top reps.
What you pointed out were valid points; one can not argue with your logic.
However, GIS/XBS is the most attractive part of XRX. While consolidation between cores is inevitable (and fiscally responsible).
The bigger picture is almost tangible. NAO(GIS/XRX) is the most desirable and profitable division of the newly re-structured company...
Head in the sand....
Whoever acquires NAO will re-invent GIS (and correct the flaws)
I wish it was inaccurate. Sorry that you are choosing to keep your head buried in the sand. Just because you don’t agree or believe does not make it inaccurate. Just exactly what part of my post do you believe to be “fake news”
While every replay has pertinent comments, You being, "in the know" would surprise anyone based on your veiled comments and inaccurate information. I am not part of GIS/XBS leadership in any fashion, in fact, a humble employee just like you However, please stop posting ignorant opinions, even if based on your individual experience.
Many of my co-workers have real decisions to face. Please give them the autonomy and respect their right to make their own un-biased decision.
Oh I believe you!
So what's happening tomorrow? More bad news? Any details would be helpful. Thank you for what you've already shared.
The lack of transparency and ability for anyone to tell us specifics is my biggest concern
Yes I mean XBS cores. Centralized means combining all functions into as few locations as possible. Examples
One huge help desk in India- already happening
Toner- ship out of one or two warehouses for all US
Parts- same
Machine set up and deliver- utilize xerox network of riggers
When you say Global, do you mean XBS cores? And what do you mean it's all being centralized and eliminated? Can you elaborate?
I can't confirm all of this but we have seen and heard things that make me believe atleast part of this is true. As much as it pains me, if you think like them, why would there be anything here but sales?