Any indication which employees will be offered to rebadge to HCL, and what happens to the folks in outsourced parts that won’t be offered that option? Does it mean an immediate layoff or are there some other options in play?
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Agree with prior post; watch what you say. Do not say you understand what has been explained to you. Say you hear what you’ve been told and need time to review information provided.
In most US States; there are laws that you can’t be forced to accept or decline these offers of other employment on the spot. Most states require a notice period (2 weeks is the norm). Take advantage of that time to contact attorney.
It’s not like they give you a chance to call ur attorney or say no to their offer, they will walk u out of the property after humiliating you enough either to except or quit. HR is sh-- in this company.
Please read this opinion: Unemployment is administered by your State Department of Labor. They decide if you get unemployment based on their State administered program and potentially the results of a review process with you and Xerox providing input. There are some procedural differences by State.
Xerox pays for unemployment insurance based on a percentage of employee pay. In many states The more people who they send to the unemployment line to collect benefits, the higher their unemployment insurance rates. In order to lower their unemployment insurance costs, Xerox employs a third party service to validate and in some cases fight unemployment claims. Xerox also attempts to “coach” some people out of the business. In other words, quit or say or do something they can use against them. They can attempt to show cause when they let you go in some cases or offer you a reasonable job. In most states if you are offered reasonable work and you decline it, you are ineligible to collect unemployment.
Xerox will absolutely report to your State that you were offered a similar job and you declined it. The sole purpose is to lower their unemployment insurance costs. I know this because they have done this in the past many times. Xerox fought unemployment for people who were offered a job one or two states away from their current work, knowing the person would decline it.
My opinion is that you should be very careful what you put in writing inside of Xerox right now. You will be pressured to sign documents and make immediate decisions. You don’t have to sign or agree to anything immediately. Don’t sign anything that says you are declining an offer. You should assume that you are being recorded and that HR is going to testify to what you say.
Your immediate focus should be job seeking activities.
Should you apply for unemployment, and be awarded unemployment, it’s less than you are used to weekly and it’s very temporary. Don’t count on it. Don’t expect your last paychecks will be correct either. They may make “mistakes”.
You will lose healthcare upon leaving Xerox, unless you obtain it elsewhere or from next employer. Xerox Cobra healthcare continuance is $1600+ per month, unaffordable for many but not too far from open market costs. Your best investment in time is to seek new employment. If you have any gap in employment, contact health.gov and apply based on new family income. You do not need to wait until end of a year. You may get short term subsidies to significantly lower your healthcare costs.
If you need it, consult an employment attorney licensed in the state where your employment location is.
I wish everyone good luck and I’ll pray for all.
Seek legal advice from an employment attorney before agreeing to anything and get the facts. I recently left Xerox. COBRA would have been $1600 a month for the family plan. I decided to go without insurance for two weeks instead until I'm eligible with my new employer. Make sure you understand all the numbers.
@Y7LpaH9-vvh. Thank you. And if a person collects un-employment, isn't it the employer who let's you go, the one who pays for it? I wish we had legal advice here.
For what I’ve heard, for now is HR, A/P A/R Billing and Contracts...
@Y7LpaH9-hch - With HCL re-badging, essentially your position is being eliminated within Xerox. BUT, Xerox is offering you to work for HCL (often with the same compensation you currently receive) as a contract employee. If you elect NOT to take the HCL job, your position is still eliminated which should allow you to collect unemployment after your severance runs out. You will also be eligible for COBRA insurance and any back pay for vacation and sick time. Now, that is what SHOULD happen, but who knows what tricky HR back door end around they are dreaming up to get out of that responsibility.
GIS PEOPLE. Does anyone know if you don't accept the offer, do you lose your vacation and sick time? Are you able to collect unemployment? You've pretty much been laid off. You have the right to choose who you work for.
Dispatch won't go right away. The rest will be gone.
@oui, read the reviews on glassdoor.com , they say otherwise!
How good are they when you are only used for a couple of months?
HCLs benefits are actually quite good. Corporate is still learning how things work in US. Not the brightest bunch and lots of red tape though.
Here is the $64,000 question...does each Core define Customer the same?
Which sub departments are in your Customer Care Dept?
Trying to wrap my head around the rebadging, so basically XYZ sister core has 125 employees, 50 of them get rebadged to HCL, so on the Xerox books it looks like XYZ sister core only pays salary and benefits to 75 employees, correct? That way when Xerox sells us we look more appealing to the buyer. So the employees that now work for HCL are contracted workers with probably little to no benefits, right? So the ultimate goal of Xerox would be to get everyone over to HCL, so why would anyone still want a job at their core? So you do the same job as your co-worker who didn't get rebadged but because you are contracted by HCL you basically are getting totally F'd over!
Everyone except for sales which is still being riden hard, written up or let go and except copier techs will be rebadged or layed off. It is coming in cycles. Tuesday is just the first. Down the line the rest is to follow. They will minimize head count to basically nothing to sell whats left to god knows who. At that point that co will likely reorganize and let go of the temps replace whos left with their people or close down buildings/consolidate when not much is left.
I heard all departments except customer care for now.
Most likely AR/AP and HR from what I’ve heard
No one from GIS should be going to work tomorrow! Tuesday is inevitable so take a 3 day weekend and let management figure it out!
I guess time will tell and soon so I hear, but how do they think anyone would be in the mindset to continue working with the same ethics and integrity knowing SO many people's lives will be affected, I feel sick to my stomach thinking of all the people who will soon be put into a devastating and horrible financial situation , it just s---s!!!!!