Thread regarding General Motors layoffs

Cutting off the hand that feeds the company to go into the unknown

What makes MB so sure that GM will be a successful company in building electric cars and new technologies. Do we have some pioneer invention that is a game-changer? I don’t think so. Basically her guess is as good as mine?

I understand the need to invest into new technologies, cars in this form will not be around forever, but the fact is that electric cars won't be a product that can support a large company for at least another 10 years. Think that this is a dangerous game, cutting off the people that have the know-how for the products that support the company now, without any certainty what will come out of this transition. God help us all.

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She isn’t really going to change “all” of gm to electric right off the bat imo. I think you’ll see different regions such as China aggressively change to electric due to China government mandates and maybe other parts of the world due to government standards but imo it will be quite some time before the us changes over. The powers that be at gm probably prefer electric cars globally at the same time because that would give them economies of scale benefits of not making so many different propulsion units for different parts of the world. They say it’s for the environment but I don’t buy it.

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Post ID: @1vvl+XwYxyq7

Barra wanted to keep sedans when our rivals were going away from it. " we will be the equivalent minivan for sedan" she thought.

Now, she is turning around 180 degrees with sharing and autonomous and get rid of the Volt?

She talked about electric cars, but we don't have batteries that sustain 300+ miles like Elon Musk achieved with Tesla making GM unattractive for many buyers.

Then now she relies on a Californian company like if autonomous vehicle can t be develop at GM. She is right that the process she put at GM is sooo toxic making it impossible to develop new technologies here.

When does the board of director will wake up and throw her out without parachute and have give back any pennies she made for all the suffering she caused, her and all the yes men and women that agree with her?

We need a company that can be managed wisely, not impulsively to impress Wall Street. She needs to go NOW.

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Post ID: @1csh+XwYxyq7

ummm Google already beat us to launch on self driving....and all we do is make cars!

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Post ID: @twn+XwYxyq7

@XwYxyq7-wuk

I think you're correct. Take tailpipe emissions and gasoline fuel economy out of the equation and folks think: "Silicon Valley", where the hardware is considered a commodity.

It's not that easy as the folks at Apple and Google have apparently figured out. Tesla sure seems like they are committed for at least a while longer.

Right now it seems the three balls being juggled are autonomous, electric and ride sharing. All the while making sure the high profit margin vehicle continue bringing in the dollars.

Can one company focus of both aspects?

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Post ID: @yjb+XwYxyq7

I do like your thought, but who is "we," kemosabi? GM is being transformed into a serf pool to be directed by Cruise/San Fran. That is why the intellectual capital is being jettisoned. They think they don't need it for that role. GM is to grind out dumb controllable vehicles at sufficient quality and cost, like motherboards, to execute the software.

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Post ID: @wuk+XwYxyq7

We already had the most technologically innovative car on the planet. The Volt. And never advertised it. But the people that drove it, loved it. And bought it. And bought more. So now we are closing the plant that builds it. That's how we embrace our electric future?

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Post ID: @kwm+XwYxyq7

Maybe we can build a car better than tesla, use that as a platform and update all models, and rule the market.

Maybe this will work

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Post ID: @res+XwYxyq7

Good post

Thank you sir

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Post ID: @esr+XwYxyq7

Sorry I meant Osborne. Kaypro was a (good) competitor. Story is the same, though.

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Post ID: @dfp+XwYxyq7

Not dangerous for the leaders. The transitioning itself is making them all rich. They don't need to care much if it ever actually works or they lose their jobs.

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Post ID: @jvx+XwYxyq7

Does anyone remember Kaypro? Famous textbook case. The produced a computer called the Kaypro I and did well. Then they said the snazzy new Kaypro II would be coming soon, the future of the company. Nobody found the Kaypro I an especially interesting product any more and stopped buying it. The company went out of business before they could ship the II.

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Post ID: @ozt+XwYxyq7

Cutting off the "head" that feeds the company to go into the unknown.

Fixed.

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