Thread regarding Xerox Corp. layoffs

A Return to THE FACTS - AGAIN

Given this site is ultimately about layoffs, let's revisit THE FACTS as the Q4/FY2018 results were just released. As I stated in a previous post (https://www.thelayoff.com/t/W0VxvHI), Xerox is restructuring at a consistent pace from previous years and there really has been no change since John V took over. 2018 ended up having the 3rd most layoffs out of the last 5 years.

Total Layoffs per Year:

-2014: 4,000

-2015: 1,700

-2016: 3,250

-2017: 2,600

-2018: 2,700

All the negative sentiment against John V/Carl Icahn is a bit unfounded from a macro perspective. They are approaching restructuring the same way Jeff J. or Ursula did prior to them, BUT I see a difference in that there appears to be an actual strategy on how to IMPROVE the business going forward. For those of us that are still here working every day at Xerox and enjoy our jobs, it should be our hope that John V is successful in the transformation of the company.

Sure, slogans like "Technology Powerhouse" are a bit hokie, but I'm at least glad to hear that Xerox is focused on new innovations in digital packaging and print, 3D printing, AI workflow assistants and sensors & services for the Internet of Things.

We aren't there yet, but at least the guy at the top is trying to reinvent the business, vs. trying to save his own a$$ by selling the company to Fuji.

The sky isn't falling folks. Sure, there are changes happening around us, but my hope is those changes will make us stronger. And, as for today, the Street appears to like what it's seeing as the stock is up 8% (as of 9am).

Don't let the fearmongers on this site scare you. There is still an opportunity for Xerox to turn things around and grow revenue for the first time since Anne was CEO.

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Post ID: @OP+XmCDGcT

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Sure, SEC reporting is always ‘accurate.’ The SEC uses a ‘best effort’ guideline.

This does not even pass the smell test. How many of us have seen departments cut over the last year? My own department was down 1/3 from the start of 2016 before Icahn’s coup and is down another 1/2 since then. Of course, many of those job cuts have been ‘filled’ in lower cost locations and would not show-up in total headcount report. A country-by-country report would provide more clarity. Also, through at least 2016, many of Xerox’s subsidiaries, especially GIS, were not included in Xerox’s overall headcount report. Lastly, even with the IT new platform that rolled-out in 2017, I heard from HR and Accounting that headcount and other metrics were questionable due to the quality of the legacy data that was transferred over and the guidelines locally as to how information is reported.

As for evil villains, evil no, greedy, yes. The watercooler heard that Icahn’s team did not react positively when as they learned that some of the company’s legally-binding Union agreements blocked some of their workforce objectives. I suspect it was not coincidence that Xerox brought in a new chief legal person who is from Icahn’s team around the same time - ttps://www.news.xerox.com/news/Xerox-names-Louie-Pastor-General-Counsel

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Post ID: @1unr+XmCDGcT

All of these numbers come from the quarterly reports filed with the SEC. If you have information proving these figures are incorrect, that would be a federal crime and you should contact the SEC.

Here are the total worldwide employee headcounts at the end of each quarter (inclusive of IRIF, forced or elected retirements, etc):

2017:

-Q1: 37,200

-Q2: 36,900

-Q3: 36,100

-Q4: 35,300

2018:

-Q1: 34,700

-Q2: 34,300

-Q3: 33,200

-Q4: 32,400

2017 had a 5.1% reduction in headcount

2018 had a 6.6% reduction in headcount

This would be in line with the reduced annual revenue:

2017 Revenue Decline: 4.7%

2018 Revenue Decline: 6.1%

There are no evil villains in a tall tower in Norwalk making dastardly plans to fire as many people as they possibly can. The business dictates what is possible. If the business shrinks 5%, well then you probably are going to need to reduce your headcount by 5%.

All this talk about the evil wealthy guys trying to "stick it to the little guy" is just naive. There are much bigger problems that need to be addressed, and I'm hopeful that the current suits are able to successfully address those problems.

As of today, there are 32,400 people/families counting on them.

Ok, I'm ready to hear your pent up vitriol now. Release the hounds!

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Post ID: @1asq+XmCDGcT

The headcount reductions above are BS....fake report. Thanks for trying though.

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Post ID: @1bsn+XmCDGcT

The 2018 layoff numbers don't factor in the people who quit because of the pension lump sum payout was decreasing for 2019.I would guess this was a large number of people.

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Post ID: @ptm+XmCDGcT

I agree my friend. Today’s call was mix up. MR. V seems to have a “powerhouse game plan” next week, that includes restructuring channels

Let’s see what we has in store with his team.. his strategies seem to working out just fine! Ha ha

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Post ID: @dew+XmCDGcT

Stock buy backs inflate earnings per share because of less stock float. Some buybacks are also used to give to executives more income as a freebie. It means nothing about the health of a company. Declining revenue every quarter is a red flag.

How many people left Xerox on their own terms?

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Post ID: @scd+XmCDGcT

Finally, investors are listening! After last week’s reviews, And today’a. Investors will ensure their money in better investment options.

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Post ID: @azt+XmCDGcT

Another stock buy back - $1,000,000,000 this time. Action speak louder than words.

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Post ID: @nmr+XmCDGcT

The stock popped a little, but it's nowhere near the $40/share Icahn and Deason want for a cash deal. They're likely to come down, maybe to $36 or possibly even $32. Both of those numbers are still too high of a premium. Icahn doesn't run companies. Expect them to announce further significant cuts.

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Post ID: @htw+XmCDGcT

There's hope and then there's drinking the Kool-Aid....

  • Yes, the stock is up over the last month or so as a result of cost-cutting and the Street liking companies that generate a lot of cash in an uncertain market; but, it's still down about 30% from where it was when the Fuji deal was announced

  • Beyond slapping a sticker over the company and calling it a 'technology powerhouse' there has been nothing about the company's strategic position(s) going forward nor any R but sinking the deal and then starting a very public fight with the company (Fuji Xerox) that provides close to 60% of Xerox's products and controls Xerox's entire Asia Pac footprint, which is a growth market unlike North America and Europe, was not smart. A renegotiated deal with Fuji woudl have likely been the only way for Xerox as it is known today to survive; but, the personalities involved (Deason's drive to destroy Xerox and the very personal Icahn v. Jacobson v. Komori battle) made sure that will never happen

  • There has been a lot more than 2,700 layoffs since that began as I do not believe that number included GIS layoffs, non-US layoffs, and employees who were let go under 'creative' circumstances (i.e. an employee is terminated for 'performance issues' only for the position to be re-posted in a low-cost location a month later) and Xerox's complex legal structure provide many loopholes for leadership to avoid WARN notices.

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Post ID: @myj+XmCDGcT

Seriously... go to the stocks please. And read the news! While u are at that.. make sure to go through his background reputation on previous investings. I am also basing myself on facts! Not on manipulated reports.

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Post ID: @kkw+XmCDGcT

Hi John V. Glad you could stop by and make a post. Best of luck turning this turd around.

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