Thread regarding Xerox Corp. layoffs

Dear upstate NY: Move, people. There is no reason to stay there and be miserable

Very sorry to hear it. This is why I moved out of upstate NY to Texas. The employment market is MUCH better. When you are letting software engineers go in a business that leans on software almost to the exclusion of anything else to do what it does, it is flesh eating its own flesh. Further very bad signs. This is just really poor management in action combined with New York's War on Business. NY and CA are losing 100,000 people/yr. EACH as their state gov'ts tax businesses out of business and out of the state. Meanwhile people live in a take-whatever-you-can-get employment market. Even for s/w people it takes MONTHS to get even one job offer after applying to hundreds of places. In Texas... less than 2 weeks between jobs. No state income tax. No snow. Loads of room. 3000 sq. ft. homes for $230k in cities like Austin and San Antonio. I am so glad I moved.

Relocating from NY is about the only thing left for people who want decent jobs, by and large. A very small percentage of people are doing well in upstate, mostly sr. executives and politicians it seems. The rest are lucky to have work.

I can say will the authority of experience that upstate NY people with decent skills need not put up with this kind of thing. Move. You'll be much happier.

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Actually the job market in Rochester is pretty good. We have been adding jobs year over year at a pretty good clip. Xerox may be going down in size, but the U of R, Paychex, and others are growing.

The schools, commute, cost of living, and quality of life here are good. I won't be moving.

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Post ID: @9ewx+ULGcTs9

Agree with the job climate in Texas. I lived in San Antonio for 14 years and have been in Austin for the past two. Affordable and great quality of life.

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Post ID: @2bxj+ULGcTs9

There is no such thing as job security anymore. The best thing you can do for you and your family is to move to an area with a generally vibrant growing economy with lots of companies and jobs in the fields you are qualified for hopefully in a few different industries. And also not to be afraid to jump after a few years if you have a better opportunity.

Unfortunately Rochester isn't as vibrant as the larger cities. And sure the housing is more expensive, sometimes by a lot, the property taxes are a lot lower, and the pay tends to be 20-30% higher, so it does tend to work out.

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Post ID: @1euc+ULGcTs9

If your skills are up to date and good you will find opportunity in the Rochester area. NY certainly has its issues but speaking as a person that has traveled to and worked in a number of different states/areas -- Western NY has a lot to offer and is a good place to live.

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Post ID: @1bgx+ULGcTs9

Fellow software peeps: The upstate job market is OK (Not good, but OK) for those skilled in a modern language. Currently a C/C++ programmer without a EE/CE education? Uh-oh...

Do yourself a favor spend any energy you possibly have getting up to speed in .NET, JavaScript or Python. Moving from upstate wont solve anything.

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Post ID: @1qmb+ULGcTs9

You make moving sound so easy. Some of us have spouses that have a job so instead of 1 person being out of work 2 would be out of work. We have kids that we would be uprooting from their schools and friends. Not to mention leaving family and our support networks.

Who knows where is really safe? It may be your company next year or Texas could get hit with job losses.

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