Stop making wild excuses for why you lost your job. It was you. period.
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@3faq - Couldn't agree with you and more. One of the biggest problems I've seen at Cisco is that it's not about what you actually do, but the perception of what you have done. All noise you make about what you have done. The bling.
Teamspace is a different way of doing things, yet it's also being to bully employees by scrutinizing what they haven't done, or haven't logged - rather than using it as a tool for coaching.
As it seems, the higher up the ranks you go, the more you tend to care about people's perception, rather than what actually benefits the company/business long term .To a point where management starts eliminating people who don't participate in the a---kissing.
They usually get branded with "negativity" or "not being team players" or "having attitude issues". I've seen top performers get LR'd for daring to have a different opinion. One that's actually in the long term interest of the business. Even in sales where there seems to be a bit more tolerance.
Pair that with short-sighted, immature management (wouldn't dare call it leadership) - and you get a killer toxic combo. That leaves a bunch of yes-men, which is never too good for any organization.
Yes, the company needs to evolve and reinvent itself, but what's going on can only be described as a clusterf--k.
These are my observations from the bottom of the chain, I wonder if anyone from a senior leadership acknowledges any of this in some form or another...
@UG9YhdX-3imz - successful people don't stay at a place for a long time? John Chambers was at Cisco from 1991 to 2015. That's 24 years. Are you going to argue that he was not a successful man?
Eh, maybe it was the case 10-15 years ago. These days, they layoff anyone or any team just to make their quarterly report look good. Cisco doesn't layoff people based on performance (s1ht they don't even have a performance review)
“TheWorldsBestBoss” oh great another narcissist. And people like you are the problem. Corporate structure run by narcissists assumes that everybody is like this. In life not everyone has the same aims and interests. Many people with intellect wish to keep enhancing that rather than using their bully tactics to try to force people into their own way of thinking and believing that because they are higher in the corporate ladder they must be better. The culture of American business encourages this. When will Americans understand that the dream to better yourself is a huge lie. Managing people this way is not improving your country - it’s creating division. Start your flames now
Successful people don't stay with the same company long term, they move out in order to move up. Anyone who remains in the same role for 5 years has zero ambition and is just collecting a paycheck, these people can be eliminated with no negative consequences to Cisco.
@UG9YhdX-1abz I would say that the first couple of layoffs - yes maybe some people needed to go. but after 15 YEARS of layoffs - you are cutting into true talent and those that have a deep knowledge base... @UG9YhdX go s--- on your pacifier some more. You obviously graduated college in...2015?? Drink the Cisco kool-aid ... your LR time is coming.
CNUT
@UG9YhdX eff you - I hope you get fired not even LR'd you're the kind of people why Cisco is going to be the next Nortel. I hope you get to eat your words in the next round.
@UG9YhdX-1whx Chuck has himself said, he has never been in the same role for more than 3 years. So, this month 3 years have got over.
I'm good enough, I'm smart enough, and people like me; especially Chuck.
Thank you, @UG9YhdX-whp... for speaking up. 98% of those I know who got LR'd were really strong and productive colleagues.
In CCBU Bangalore there is a group of managers who discuss only about engineers in person instead of discussing technical issues. If anyone misses good morning to them then that person is a candidate for layoff. Period.
Wait till it will be you who would be the problem. And longer you have been in Cisco, harder it would be for you to get another job. Most people who are LR'D due to political reasons have no sympathy for Cisco guys, specially managers and above. I have seen these guys dring Uber in Bay area. Count your blessings. Believe me it won't last long. I trash resumes from Cisco managers more often than anybody can imagine.
Spoken like an uninformed id--t that understands nothing about the behind the scenes working of how layoff lists are set. I was personally involved in determining layoff lists for every major layoff Cisco ever did starting with the first one, until it was finally my turn 2 years ago. It is not the person who is being laid off’s fault.
Yeah thanks for the advice @UG9YhdX. I hope your next