Thread regarding CDK Global Inc. layoffs

Knowledgeable Employees Gone

Morale is low everywhere at CDK except India (hell I have seen them have party, get nice gifts, like Fitbits, etc.) that....

Low morale is what happens when you force out the knowledgeable but expensive employees and replace them with people who don't care about customers, our products, or care about the industry. Some of the interns are nice, but they do not stay long, and why should they when they can make more down the street? Turnover is high in India offices, and many of the India CDK folks do not know how to code, or know anything about our customers.

The heroes here are the us support people and us software developers who clean up the buggy, bad code we get from India. CDK needs to start realizing it is the employees that make the customers happy with decent products, which makes the stock price high. Not slash and burn all costs to make our activist shareholders happy.

We have tried outsourcing support and other departments in the past, and it always fails. Doesn't stop CDK from trying. CDK will keep trying until we dig our own grave as a company

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CDK doesn't pay a good salary to afford good developers

The company-specific reason for bad code may be that for years the company applied the strategy that it was easier to teach a business person to code than to get a developer to care much about business. This then lead to the long-held belief of the head of development that if programmers must program, it must be in a paint-by-numbers style, using frameworks. Then they decided to rely on low-cost, free, and home-grown frameworks. That produced such a stinkin' mess that they had to pay a good salary to get and keep average developers.

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Post ID: @2aqk+U83ziyL

CDK doesn't pay a good salary to afford good developers. Obviously, you will see bad codes from developers and freshers who just join this company just coz they can't find a better job anywhere else. You need to see good developers try joining companies like Amazon, Google, and Microsoft. We shouldn't forget as per Indian software industry standard this company is not in the position to attract good talents although we have talented people hired under last leadership ( not Brian) which is why the company is still standing even after multiple lay off.

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Post ID: @1jft+U83ziyL

Well. I am pretty sure everyone has a different experience. Even google's code has defects so just cause a team of developers is resolving few defects on code coded in another part of the world doesn't mean the code belongs to all the developers of that country. I am from NT group and fixing the bad code written in the US in last 15 years. I have similar codes while I consulted for big consulting firm from French developers, UK developers etc. Its cutting-edge technology and not driving a tractor, everyone needs some time and that's why the software industry has agile teams and not individuals coding. I am sorry for the way we think about the problem. We belong to one global software industry and without everyone contribution, we just can't move at the pace expected out of this industry. Let's just wish our colleagues affected by this to find a job .

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Post ID: @1syu+U83ziyL

come on i am from india and i say CDK has buggy code in the name of Brian

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Post ID: @1kxp+U83ziyL

I feel sorry for the no rationale layoff and everyone getting affected. This is affecting India locations as well. Morale is down all over the place. I work in India location. I have seen people cry.

I dont need to justify anything. Just know that the petty gifts of cheap quality are useless. They dont make up for anything in the professional life.

CDK in India has started getting bad reputation too as employer and its already getting difficult to attract good talent with such corporate decisions and low salary offers.

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Post ID: @1jfb+U83ziyL

You both are replying to an old post I read months ago that someone decided to dredge back up by commenting on it.

The person has a point though, I work in R&D and have seen it first hand. A big issue we have is dealing with fixing code from India. Also arrogant, inept american executives. There are a few good coders there in India, but not as many as elsewhere. Projects moved to India take much longer than if they were done in NA. I have friends in India there are good people there, just not as good at building quality software in a timely manner as in the US.

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Post ID: @bmn+U83ziyL

I am pretty sure your assessment is not right. Several members of my team across the US and India are fired and morale is low everywhere. Just because they get nice gifts doesn't mean they are partying. It's how management playing the game of hot and cold. Also, CDK has been laying off well before jobs started getting outsourced to India.

I wonder how many folks have you worked with. I am an architect in CDK (US) and I find bad code every day from all parts of the world. Architecture decisions taken in the US (before I joined) is so bad that it's almost breaking the company's operational budget. So trust me, observations can be wrong and funneled.

Random firing impacts everyone alike and this is the truth about working for corporate. We are just a line in their excel. Unfortunately, the management is a bunch of nicely dressed people working for the shareholder's purse and lacks the passion of running a multi-national company.

I am extremely sorry for everyone impacted by this and hope CDK management learns to nurture the company instead of just seeing everything in profit & loss.

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Post ID: @xuo+U83ziyL

"Morale is low everywhere at CDK except India (hell I have seen them have party, get nice gifts, like Fitbits, etc.) that...." --- dont worry... 10% of workforce gone in india as well.. atleast in india management tried to motivate people..

"The heroes here are the us support people and us software developers who clean up the buggy, bad code we get from India. " -- agreed with business point of view US team should be there.. but i have seen buggy code from US S/W developers as well... no offense here... just an observation

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