Let's get the facts straight a--hole, I was laid off , you took the ECO. You weren't forced to take the ECO but wanted to still be on payroll and work off the books somewhere else, hoping to return. I could've taken the ECO also but unlike you I had the comprehension, knowledge and confidence that I would've gotten a job. Unlike yourself, Avaya wanted you to learn but you decided to be one of those SPOS and only wanted to be in the background when the REAL work was to be done. We all know who you are. You figured since you always went out on disability every summer to get a few months off and milk the company, you were hoping they would ask you back. Unfortunately 2 people are losing their jobs because work is gone to all the BP's. The people who could take the VTP want to be kicked to the curb after 30-40 years when the company implodes. As far as checking this site, I have some loyalty to my fellow techs who are still there. They still call me and I help them out when they need me. I am not a one bean Johnny like yourself and NEVER ratted on my fellow techs like you always did. Maybe you could learn something running cable......or maybe you'll pull your back out..............again. Jerkoff.