Thread regarding State Farm Insurance layoffs

The much bigger picture

30 years on the Farm, in a number of roles. My role is in just as much jeopardy as anyone else’s, and I don’t claim to like that. But all of this change isn’t about State Farm reducing expenses, or eliminating jobs, or carrying out a purge or vendetta. It’s not about claim reps or underwriters, or agents, or call center reps. All these issues are merely symptoms of the larger condition. State Farm is trying to figure out how to move forward in a fundamentally changed world. Jobs that have been done by people will quickly be done by robots or AI. We’re in for decades of stagnant wages and a massive accumulation of wealth by the very few. It happened when industrialization was brand new in the late 18th and early 19th Century, and again when an agrarian economy was supplanted by an industrial one in the early 20th Century. Those resulted in wars, and political/social upheaval. This will as well.

We’re going to have to come to grips with the fact that we’ve replaced ourselves with machines. Then, we’re going to be forced to figure out how to distribute wealth and resources, since very few people will actually be personally producing anything, and will have earned nothing by traditional standards.

This is not a sketchy future prediction because it’s already happening.

Will State Farm survive the change? Who knows? In the short term, they seem be trying to treat people AS machines, which will never fly. But we can know for certain that operating as though it’s 1985 will not work. Unionize? Can’t fix a 21st Century problem with a 19th Century solution. The jobs and careers many of us started in the 80’s, or even the 70’s.....those are gone and nothing can bring them back.

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Post ID: @OP+TIM8jZI

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Nonsense OP. This purge is about executives who have no clue whatsoever what they are doing and who are listening to consultants because they have no real expertise of their own. That's obvious, since every round of restructuring merely leads to more failure and another round of losses to make up for what they destroyed the last time.

In a publicly traded company, these executives would be long gone.

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Post ID: @fkdd+TIM8jZI

Most jobs are lost to automation. You have to adapt to survive. This is nothing new, similar to Homo sapiens vs Neanderthals. Jobs will be lost to new technology, just has it has time and time again in history. SF is a big company but will likely be different in the future. Agents only make a difference if the customer cares about them.

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Post ID: @3zig+TIM8jZI

wsa is correct. Agreed 100%. Management needs to care about it's employees and the employees in turn will take care of the customers. I hear things coming from management "the associates don't care" - they would if you cared about them. Ask them. REALLY listen to them.

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Post ID: @2gcd+TIM8jZI

In my opinion there will be a need for software developers for many years to come. I've been writing code since 1982 and see no end in sight. Languages, coding paradigms and tools will likely change every few years but the craft of coding will persist for at least 20 more years, IMHO.

I just retired, so I don't give a darn :-)

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Post ID: @1zgr+TIM8jZI

Reads @TIM8jZI-wsa's post. Wipes lone tear running down left cheek away. Stands up. Starts to slow clap. Slow clap gets faster. And faster. Soon, thunderous applause breaks out. Sits back down. Continues to scroll.

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Post ID: @1qnk+TIM8jZI

I see a company eliminating 1000s jobs to reduce expenses, holding on to a agency system that only boomers and older value, and leadership full of "Yes Sir" Men and Women.

This place is doomed if vision and true leadership are not found.

All I see are opinion surveys not asking important questions and a "News Hub" that blocks feedback that is contrary to the executive message.

If they can make it 10 more years I will be thrilled to retire and go!!!

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Post ID: @qbf+TIM8jZI

Yes, we all understand that the world is changing. Companies that have been mainstays of our culture are going away because of customers changing wants and needs. The future that you talk about with jobs being replaced by machines is already here. The workforce at the Farm is on the whole, a pretty intelligent one, and we understand that things need to change. One of the problems that we discuss in my area is that Leadership has taken it upon themselves to "fix" the issues confronting the Farm, without having input from those on the ground taking care of our customers. Eliminating 3000 Proximity workers without a concrete plan to do their work is a kneejerk reaction, and not an act of Leadership. The company has taken the time to listen to outside consultants but hasn't asked those who are doing the doing just how to make effective change and continue to provide quality service to the customer. It may be that the company is trying to get ahead of a changing landscape, but runs the risk of going the way of Radio Shack, Blockbuster, Sears, etc if it alienates it's customer base. And that is precisely where it is heading by alienating the workforce that takes care of it's customers. When people work to meet a metric, rather than do what is in the customer's interest, you are destroying the customer's faith that we will be there to make life go right. Each poorly handled customer transaction is being noted. Customers are sharing their poor interactions both in person and through social media, and we continue to lose policy counts as a result. Yes, we employees need to wake up and smell the coffee, but Leadership needs to realize that we are assets, and not expenses. Failure to recognize this will guarantee that we will end up on the scrap heap of history.

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Post ID: @wsa+TIM8jZI

Unions were only a partial outcome stemming from economic and labor conditions. Solidarity and organizing were widespread before and beyond unions. Maybe unions are not the answer, but let us not discourage organizing and solidarity.

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