The problem with individuals like Camden is his premise. People like him have very little professional work experience or a specific ax to grind. Is UPX a diploma mill? In most cases yes. What they fail to understand, however, is that UPX is no more or less ethical than virtually all other organizations. I've worked for a fortune 500 healthcare company, large Auto Insurer, private and government-backed lender, large mortage company, and software sales. The premise that UPX is more unethical than most organizations in most other industries is laughable. Auto Insurance? I could tell you things that would make your head spin. Healthcare products (literally life and death)? You should see the lawsuits they settle out of court, you can't imagine. And you're all familiar, to some degree, with lending I'm sure. You know, the industry that charges you as much interest and fees as they can legally (or illegally) get away with? So the idea that UPX Is somehow more unethical because Camden or someone else just happened to work there is humorous. Is it an unethical place with a lot of bad practices? Sure it is. Is it more unethical, or the most unethical, just because you worked there? Stop being silly. It's just another place trying to make as much money as it can within the sphere of Corporate America. Grow up and move on with your life. It's not healthy to be so fixated on something.