Does anyone have reliable data on current enrollment?
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What does the future hold for Phoenix? Will it rise from the ashes that it has created? Is it likely to burn up before any chance of ascension? If the past is prologue then the seeds of demise have been sown. The reputation cannot be salvaged. Eventually even the lower demographics UOP preys on will stop enrolling; if no other reason than no enrollment personnel left. There is also the anti-college movement that will make a contribution to low enrollment. It seems people question the merits of a college degree when they incur huge debt and can't find a reasonable paying job. Many believe college should have a vocational benefit and not merely educate people and teach them how to think, evaluate, and learn. This is affecting the entire academic landscape. Throw in the Phoenix propensity for the bottom line, blatant disregard of the TBL, failure to invest in people and systems, and one has the formula for demise. Phoenix leadership has never acknowledged the elephant in the room and has failed at every leadership test. Becoming the most trusted provider of adult education in the market was a nice slogan but no one believed in management's sincerity or ability to achieve it. Phoenix can't even earn the trust of its employees let alone the market. Phoenix deserves as much criticism, scrutiny, condemnation, and rebuke, as the universe can give. It has earned it. I always had suspicions about the ability of a for profit enterprise to deliver on critical community and national initiatives. Phoenix has certainly affirmed them for me. Some 100 or more years ago most critical services like law enforcement, corrections, firefighting, etc. were made public. We created the public system of universities and education. Why? To ensure access, fairness, equality, etc. Can you imagine calling the fire department only to hear sorry, we can't help you because you are behind on your credit card payment. I believe in a mixed approach using public and private enterprise; however not as a for-profit whose primary responsibility is not to the public, or even the market, but rather to its investors. The Phoenix model was not built on a sustainable foundation. Its demise is hastened by going private where there is zero transparency. No one is held accountable now. Does the Phoenix model reflect our society's propensity for instant gratification or is it a catalyst? Is Phoenix a culprit in the anti-intellectual movement? I am beginning to think it is both. Phoenix has graduated thousands who lack depth and breadth, and for the past 10 years or so, graduates who have remedial writing and critical thinking skills. Has Phoenix contributed to a society which prefers short-cuts, the path of least resistance, and either avoids or is unable to think critically? Or is it a mere reflection?
No marketing and enrollments are down. Leads are wayyyyyy down. They said a campaign is coming. Too little too late. Bankruptcy on the horizon.
A couple of years ago UoP was spending more on advertising / marketing than on "instructional expense" (which included a lot more than just faculty payments), and UoP ads were all over the place. I don't recall seeing any ads recently --- how are they getting more students now?
who are the remaining 58k people that are still enrolled knowing the reputation of UOP
If you were to extrapolate the numbers from our college's decline (peak to current) then the University has ~65k students at this point. 58k is entirely reasonable. They want a stable core of 30-50k. going to be difficult to do and nobody is going to buy UPX unless enrollment stabilizes. Bankruptcy is more likely than a sale.
@SxHYAaE-1wiw, you must be joking. The last reported numbers were about 175,000 but that was before Apollo Global Management and Vistria took over. By the way, is Vistria showing any presence in this great downsizing?
So nobody really knows.
But I heard the number was 400,000.
Around 84,000 was the number I saw about a week ago. Indicated online and local.
Is there any way to confirm numbers? When UoP was part of APOL, the numbers were reported every quarter. Now you have to wait 2-3 years when they come out through NCES.
someone a few weeks ago or so said we had 58,000 students incl employees.....pathetic....this is what happens when you let go "top producing Enrollment Advisers"........right?
Good luck trying to get that information.