Thread regarding State Farm Insurance layoffs

EZ now. When someone make a judgement like that about someone else based on 1) years of service, and 2) because the view disagrees with his own, it's just sort of anonymous digital rage (a version of road rage). It's useless. Don't waste time feeding it.

This forum has some serious limits when it comes to true discussion. But tgat's the nature of it.

Really? A troll? Someone who has worked for 40 years to take care of his family while your entitled rear was still in diapers. You have nerve! You know nothing about this person yet choose to criticize. Yep State Farm needs people like you. Do us all a favor and leave. You’re toxic which is not healthy for you and anyone you care about. Your comments show your stupidity. Find another site to rage on. The rest of us don’t need to hear from you.

Dude claims he's been here for 40 years. If that's true, he's one of those yellow-type personalities that puts way too much faith in leadership.

This entire OP is misguided. It appears to be based on a number of fallacies. Given that it's laced with hyperbole and short on axioms, it's hard to say exactly which fallacies. Take your pick from the following:

1) The notion that one's opinion of a situation does not matter unless he is directly in charge of said situation.

2) The notion that those in charge of a situation have specialized information that render's anyone else's knowledge or experience null and void.

3) The notion that just because one has specialized knowledge or is in charge of a situation, that evidence has not been presented that would make a reasonable person question his judgment, or that the opinions of said onlookers might not be a more accurate reflection of reality.

I mean, it's all a little silly.

And even if we grant the OP these absurdities, it does nothing to negate the fact that collectively, the opinions of State Farm's employees are a DIRECT indication of:

1) Employee morale.

2) Employee loyalty and motivation.

And those things effect the bottom line.

It's sort of like saying that the opinions of a football team regarding their coach don't matter because they're not the coach. But I'd venture to say that if the coach loses the respect of his team, most of the time he's as good as gone.

This OP also ignores the fact that the employees have experienced first hand the front-line consequences of decisions made by this leadership team, and have also witnessed the effect of their decisions on the company as a whole. There is a track record here. It's sort of hard to ignore.

So yes, the opinions of employees do matter, whether they are in charge of the company or not. In many ways, the opinions en masse of the employees have a greater impact on the company than the executives do.

I worked there for over a decade. I stayed because State Farm was different than other companies. The executives have made a decision to run the company like most other companies and treat their employees as expendable resources to be minimized. That’s the executives’ prerogative. It’s also my prerogative to take my skills elsewhere to a company that pays more (50% more to be exact). Good luck to the executives who think they are going to treat their employees like other companies do while at the same time not paying nearly as much as those other companies pay.

*They know much more than you do about what's available and will be available in the coming years, so you can scream and hollar about how bad they are, but you are looking at a tiny fraction of the puzzle, and they can see the big picture.*

This is just stupid talk. This is the same team who gave us CDE, when anyone CLOSE to the actual work environment knew at first glance that it would fail in a huge way. And we tried to warn them.

This is the same team who is losing policies hand over fist because they've trashed our customer service by gutting claims.

I would trust a homeless guy from a mental asylum to run this company before I would trust this feckless group of losers.

A troll who has worked for the company for 4 decades is still a troll.

Don't feed the troll.

Actually, it is. I am on overstaffed, and am age 50, and mobility due to family is tough (but I'll do it). Thing is, I have good prospects, b/c marketable skills. Yes, it's possible to be marketable and on overstaffed. So, while I don't like it, I grew up in a family that had to move, and I'll do it again. It's hard, but humans are stronger than they realize.

I guess your job hasn’t been compromised yet! Good luck

I am a 20-year. It's hard going thru this, but I can't speak from a place of fear like someone with less marketable skills. But either way, I understand that the 'old' SF (SF-nice) is an anomolly, and long overdue for change. Most other professional work environments are highly competitive, with no expectation of anything other than agreed compensation and benefits while working.

It hurts, and it sounds callous, but OP is right.

I been with State Farm for over a quarter of a century. When I started it was a family. They were second to none and actually cared about the individual. Now they are no different than any other corporation. They are now good neighbors who mind their business and won’t lend a cup of sugar to anyone who comes knocking. Years ago that was the plan to grow with them and stay forever just like the plan for business was to grow with those you know. now it’s we’re gonna raise your rates and hope you go.

LELAND

Kramer, I've.. been reviewing your work.. Quite frankly, it stinks.

KRAMER

Well, I ah.. been havin' trouble at home and uh.. I mean, ah, you know, I'll work harder, nights, weekends, whatever it takes..

LELAND

No, no, I don't think that's going to, do it, uh. These reports you handed in. It's almost as if you have no business training at all..

I don't know what this is supposed to be!

KRAMER

Well, I'm uh, just--tryin' to get ahead..

LELAND

Well, I'm sorry. There's just no way that we could keep you on.

KRAMER

I don't even really work here!

LELAND

That's what makes this so difficult.

You don’t know me so I will ignore your comments.I have made it known to management many, many times over the years. They are the ones who chose to do nothing. I have earned every dime of my salary. You’re welcome.

Well how about when they have a document on SharePoint that they didn’t secure until after the fact...so we might know more than you think

@bir... If you know "lots" of people that did not earn their paycheck, did you open door them? Did you counsel them? Did you discuss the issue with their team manager or HR or anyone? No, then you are as much a part of the problem as they are. We are going to lose quality people for lesser quality persons who are mobile. How does that make the company any better? You have no moral high ground here. You are as guilty as they are. I believe it's called the Code of Conduct.

This troll has worked for the company for four decades.

Please don't feed the troll.

Agreed. When we hired in we agreed to work a set amount of hours for a set amount of pay. IF you fulfilled your part of that equation, good for you. I know lots that did not. I’m certain State Farm fulfilled theirs. Promise kept. No one was EVER promised a position that would take them to retirement. Not one employer has ever promised that. Live grateful people. Hopefully you’ve gained skills that you can use in your future endeavors. Quit the whining and get back to work.

Just curious. When you two are the extra weight, how are you going to feel about it?

Well said.

Cut the weight.