Thread regarding Sabre Holdings layoffs

Is there such a thing as Age Discrimination any longer?

So far, I know of 8 people laid off and all 8 are over the age of 50. Their years of experience are mostly 20+ and some over 30 years!

How does someone go about getting proof of age across the layoff to prove/disprove age discrimination? or does such a thing exist any more?

I understand that when you sign for severance, you give up your right to file a lawsuit. What can these people do? I hear all the employment lawyers in Dallas are already hired by Sabre. So, how do you ever get the REAL ages of those laid off to know if you have a leg to stand on in a law suit or if you should just take the severance package?

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Please know any unemployment discrimination claims without the overall percentages will fail in EEOC. Look at the TOTAL percentages of the actual layoffs by protected groups.

If 100% of employees laid off are over 40, 50+ y/o then there is a case. If 20% of the TOTAL are over 40, 50+ y/o then maybe not so much. Sabre is not stupid enough to neglect this fact. This does not mean that there could be individual factors of age issues. Without an attorney, you will never get this information. If your severance s---s, then you have nothing to lose by not accepting it and sue. COBRA can't be touched any company, so you can't lose this.

One point: If you had consistent and stellar performance reviews without any issues, then all of the sudden are having issues leading up to the layoff, you should investigate this further. As Texas is a right-to-work State, companies can't (but will) manufacture false performance issues to justify a layoff to disguise any illegal activity or discrimination.

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Post ID: @3zim+SW5ZZrq

Start a website email dist to gather other team members over 40. 🦕 my butt you could kick the P--p out of the lazy replacements who are not as respectful of leadership as ypu have been in the past.

Bring it on there a quite a few who have been quieted.

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Post ID: @3xna+SW5ZZrq

What do you call a lezbi dinosaur? Lickalottapuss

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Post ID: @1nua+SW5ZZrq

Hey @SW5ZZrq-1zcz, your post has some merit here.

I'm over 40 and I see "Dinosaurs" as a way of thinking versus age. I know people in their late 20's early 30's here at Sabre today who are "Dinosaurs." It's their way or no way, or they are inflexible to think anyone with more experience is a loser. I see these people who need a lot of validation, feedback, and wins or they collapse. I see it all the time. So, please know they only reason many of them are still here is that of your low salary. I would never paint an entire generation with the same brush. I'll look at them individually.

Back to your point: You are correct, but he only Dinosaur here is Sabre. A very slow to market Dinosaur who uses cliques, Prides, and Congresses to make decisions that are too late. Sabre has lost its diversity in every way. Look at the leadership, then look at the diversity of thinking and innovation. It is not supported with action. Perhaps what you are seeing as old and lazy is the command and control of a 1971 Airline Culture. It's Sabres DNA. Not much of a technology company, but the stock/earnings seem t eeeek by.

Sabre is litigious - Trumpian style. Call a lawyer and force them to provide their rationale

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Post ID: @1yxe+SW5ZZrq

I’m offended every time you use the word dinosaurs. We dinosaurs are responsible for guiding Sabre through its best and most successful years.

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Post ID: @1kyj+SW5ZZrq

In a lot of cases, with a more seasoned age comes more seasoned experience and with that comes a higher comp range. I think its fair to consider if it was truely your “age” that was targeted, or if it was your Compensation Range that was the true target. best of luck to you !

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Post ID: @1sss+SW5ZZrq

There is not necessarily a lack of adaptability to the new era, as posted by @SW5ZZrq-1zcz . Everyone I know who was hit (including myself) are long time and/or older employees. We were given no internal help to find new jobs within the company. The younger employees were offered reassignments while 3 of us older workers were just let go. We definitely need more who were affected to offer their age and tenure here and find a way to contact each other and look at possible class action. Am sure like other layoffs, there will be a new hire class coming within a few days or weeks.

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Post ID: @1sam+SW5ZZrq

http://www.ediththomaslaw.com/

Go see her. They are definitely discriminating.

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Post ID: @1kyr+SW5ZZrq

I do not think the problem is age but a lack of adaptability to a new era. Technology goes too fast for some people and many fail to adapt as quickly as the technology evolution.

To me it does not have to do with age directly.

What has happened in DFW mostly is that there used to be many accommodated dinosaurs that stayed around just because they had friends. I am glad those days are over to be honest.

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Post ID: @1zcz+SW5ZZrq

The EEOC can override anything Sabre makes you do, but you have to have proof. You need to understand what the percentage of Texas are workers over the age of 40 (the EEOC age base for older workers) to set your baseline. Then, look at the percentage age of people who are laid off. You are entitled to ask the HR person who is laying you off for this document. They must provide it. I think it has titles and ages on it, no names. If it has a high number of people over 40.

Go to the EEOC if you have proof or suspect anything fishy. They will investigate and determine if they will file a lawsuit on your behalf. The EEOC is NOT in Sabres back pocket.

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Post ID: @1nuj+SW5ZZrq

You shall file a complaint with Dallas EEOC office, provide why you think you were discriminated: verbal clues from your boss & peers, include written communication as well which have remarks live you being slow, taking yourt time etc. Include date, time, nanmes in your claim. EEOC may decide to open an investigation, then it may file a lawsuit against Sabre. Or, it may give you “right to sue letter” or discharge your case. Houston lawyers are better for these cases if you have right to sue letter or your case is discharged by EEOC.

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Post ID: @1mfo+SW5ZZrq

It may be difficult to prove age discrimination. Unless you know for sure that they were replaced by a younger person. Check the EEOC site. https://www.eeoc.gov/laws/types/age.cfm

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