Thread regarding State Farm Insurance layoffs

“Under performers” who were not in the impacted group are because leadership over the years did nothing about them.

While it's true that there has been lots of what you're describing at State Farm over the years, that's not why they're not in an impacted group now. They're not in an impacted group because this lay-off has nothing to do with performance. So, those being let go run the full gamut of quality, from the highest of the high performers to the lowest of the low and everything inbetween.

It's basically a carpet bombing.

“Under performers” who were not in the impacted group are because leadership over the years did nothing about them. Passed them on to the next and next manager who again did nothing

Just because they have 30 years in doesn't mean they are in a position to retire. If they are 55 with 30 years they could still have family responsibilities, Pension at 55 is 75 percent of what it would be at 62, It is also harder for a 55 year old to find a full time job than a 40 year old, so don't project what others should do. You don't know what their situation is.

I agree, people volunteering to leave are not noble, they are looking to get the most they can before they leave. Nothing wrong with that. If in the process of getting a big check they also help someone else out - that is nice too. There used to be a lot more nice around in the old days...

No one at State Farm is looking to save someone else's job. Do not be naive. People are will to save a job over the right price.

You have people who are hanging on for severance. My department was being cut in half. There were numerous people with over 30 years experience. They would ask about severance and early retirement packages every conference call and were told explicitly there would be no severance.

These same people would tell me they are hanging on until SF caved with severance--meaning the department would cut staffing through reassignments or attrition through promotions or people jumping on CAT--not by them retiring.

I know people who bought in that they might be without a job who are now on CAT--which is not what it used to be. The 30 plus year folks are still in their jobs and probably about to get a severance and call it day.

They could have retired over the last couple years and others would have kept their position or still be with the company. No, they waited it out because they could--why leave until forced out and then retire. They waited for a severance and others had to leave the company, get reassigned or take demotions.

I know in my area I got reassigned due to being near an OC. 3 other people in my role lived outside 50 miles and have over 30 years. Had they wanted to save my job, they could have retired. I outperformed all of them combined too (easy to say behind a keyboard I know!).

Everyone is looking out for themselves, understandably so.